Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

[kybkh]

Updated | Saudi Arabia claimed Monday to have detained three members of Iran's elite Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps who allegedly were attempting an attack on one of its offshore oil sites..
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http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-ar ... oil-627327

[Otern]

Russia willing to go to blows with the US over Syria? Russian planes stand no chance against 22 and 35s - but their SAM missile tech is formidable....but can Russian SAMs see the 22? Me thinks the Russians would get their ass handed to them in a non-nuclear conflict....

What were you saying?

They can't do it with their planes - it would have to be SAMs....and I'm not sure their SAMs can see our latest drones and fighters - but then again - the DoD may not want to give the Russians a chance to see our best tech in action.

The Russians will not be at an advantage militarily when it comes to air-to-air combat. But they can definitely shoot down some of the US fighters. The F-35 isn't operational yet, and the F-22 is an expensive unicorn not worth taking the risk to lose. It will be SU-27s and SU35s against Hornets, Eagles and Falcons.

Of course the coalition has an advantage, both in numbers, sensors, and sensor networking. But the Russians have the advantage in the effect of public disapproval compared to the US if one of their pilots dies. Ten dead American pilots will hurt the public opinion in the US far more than fifty dead Russian pilots in Russia.

Then there's the whole drone warfare thing. US drones are simple to shoot down by the use of SAMs. And it's what the US is relying on in this theater. Russia is very much able to totally stop all drone strikes in Syria, without even launching a fighter. The US is also capable of taking out the SAM-network, but this will definitely lead to casualties among Russian personnel. We can all hope the Russians will just let this slide. But if they don't, they'll respond in a manner which makes American personnel die, and the Americans are for sure not going to let this slide.

Of all the stupid ideas, shooting on Russians ranks almost as high as shooting on Americans.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Wow... you are ignorant...

<citation needed>

1947 to the collapse of The Soviet Union... you do the math and research. All I'll say is that Russia and US spies were not theory and used some nasty tactics to keep things "civil"...

Of course spies played spy games, and they were deadly. However, that is a very far cry from open provocation. It was done with the mutual understanding that those spies were expendable.

[The Conservative]

<citation needed>

1947 to the collapse of The Soviet Union... you do the math and research. All I'll say is that Russia and US spies were not theory and used some nasty tactics to keep things "civil"...

Of course spies played spy games, and they were deadly. However, that is a very far cry from open provocation. It was done with the mutual understanding that those spies were expendable.

It was when they were caught.

[TheReal_ND]

Developments June whatever the fuck it's hot outside EDITION:

ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW

>Assad will never survive the first year of the revolution
>Assad will never hold Damascus
>Assad will never hold Aleppo
>Assad will never hold Daraa
>Assad will never reach Kuweires airbase
>Assad will never
>Assad will never hold Deir-Er-Zor
>Assad will never liberate Aleppo
>Assad will never reach Rojava
>Assad will never liberate Damascus
>Assad will never liberate Palmyra
>Assad will never reach Iraqi border
YOU ARE HERE
>Assad will never liberate Deir-Ez-Zor
>Assad will never eliminate ISIS
>Assad will never eliminate FSA pockets
>Assad will never liberate Idlib province
>Assad will never throw out US troops
>Assad will never join with SSNP
>Assad will never win the Syrian Civil War
>Assad will never spread Ba´athim beyond Syria
>Assad will never make Greater Syria a reality
>Assad will never untite the Middle East under Greater Syrias banner
>Assad will never liberate Europe
>Assad will never liberate the world
>Assad will never expand the space program
>Assad will never turn Mars Red-White-Dark
>Assad will never beat the Xiatholocos Armada
>Assad will never barrel-bomb the Xiatholocos homeworld
>Assad will never expand into the galaxy
>???


>Tiger Forces liberate 18 villages in Raqqa CS
Russia vows to shoot down all flying objects over Syria, sends warning to USA
>SAA advances up Ithriya-Tabqa Highway, aims to link with Tigers
>Tiger Forces liberate Resafa
>Russia holds rocket testing drills off Syrian coast, Iran & China hold drills in Strait of Hormuz
>Iranian Revolutionary Guard says it launches missile strikes in eastern Syria over IS-claimed attacks in Tehran.
US-led Coalition shot down a SyAF fighter jet (SU-22) south of Tabqa city
>Raqqa: Clashes between SAA and SDF
>SAA controls Iraqi border all the way to DeZ province
>SAA blitzes ISIS in Syrian Desert, reach DeZ prov, cut al-Qaim-Sukhnah Road
>Raqqa: US casualties piling up to 26, extensive use of SOFs
>Unconfirmed: SDF to be sent to Tanf border crossing
>IS claims bombing in Damascus, 7 killed
>Al-Waleed Iraqi/Syrian border crossing secured by PMU
>2 objects intercepted above Hmeimim AB by Russian Air Defence

>#SAA is trying to advance on Dael town, North of Daraa. Loss of armor reported for both sides.
https://twitter.com/rofoca_lucifuge/sta ... 0504165377

>Several armored vehicles &a US SOF have entered the Al Tanf base from Jordan, likely to dissuade any attacks à la Manbij
https://twitter.com/SyrianLense/status/ ... 9376662528




>Khabrat al-Zaqf
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=33.89 ... itary-camp

What to expect after ISIS are "gone", unless there's some good 'ol fashioned genociding action in Iraq and Syria


Qatar CRISES day one bajillion edition:
Qatar/ME Crisis Day 15
* Qatar isolation could last for years, says Emirati official
* Qatar FM: We won't negotiate until blockade is lifted
* Turkey troops take part in drills in Qatar
* Iran Interior Ministry rejects #Saudi claims re capturing 3 RevGuard officers & says "They've faced ordinary fishermen."
* Saudi captures 3 Iran Revolutionary Guard members after their boat tried to target oil field (Reuters)
* IRGC claims missile attacks killed Abu Saad, a saudi high profile ISIS commander.
* Iraq PM heads to Saudi Arabia then to Kuwait & Iran
* Expulsion of Qataris from Gulf states comes into effect
* Report: Israel secretly giving aid to Syrian rebels
* Khamenei calls Trump "an inexperienced thug."
>Pakistan PM Nawaz Sharif on private visit to Saudi Arabia for pilgrimage
>Egypt mediating talks between Hamas, Dahlan & PA
>Qatar still waiting for list of grievances
>Bahrain orders Qatari troops to leave coalition fighting ISIL
>Qatar cows impacted by crisis, "feeling exhausted" to make up for milk shortages.
>Bahrain council now condemning Qatar interference (leaked audio b/w Doha & opposition), plotting with Iran.
>Trade talks between Israel and Saudi Arabia mark a historic first; Orb glows brighter.
>AP: Trump Organization ended Qatar push 6 days after swearing in
>Chinese naval fleet arrives for friendly visit to Iran
>Saudi Arabia 'rejects' Turkey offer to build base in kingdom
>SDF Boosts Relations W/ Saudi Arabia, Praises Its Role In “Stabilisation” Of Syria
>Eritrean troops seize control of a disputed border area with Djibouti, days after Qatari troops withdrew
>Qatar already prosecuted 5 men on US terrorism list, plans to charge 2 more over terror funding https://archive.fo/Wrn0V
>Theresa May spoke with Barhain, Saudi & Qatar, urged de-escalation and ways to address radicalization in region.

[Speaker to Animals]

Holy fucking shit, man.

[heydaralon]

I read an article a few days ago saying that ISIS had 150,000 human shields in Mosul. Reminds me a lot of the 150,000 people trapped in Aleppo being mercilessly killed by Assad. Turns out, those numbers were total bullshit and the AQ PR guys were lying to the western media. Who knew?

I'm sure these numbers are right though. Syrians are generally pretty honest when it comes to reporting civilian casualties and military forces...

[SuburbanFarmer]

Holy fucking shit, man.

Badass.

[Smitty-48]

The Russians will not be at an advantage militarily when it comes to air-to-air combat. But they can definitely shoot down some of the US fighters. The F-35 isn't operational yet, and the F-22 is an expensive unicorn not worth taking the risk to lose. It will be SU-27s and SU35s against Hornets, Eagles and Falcons.

Of course the coalition has an advantage, both in numbers, sensors, and sensor networking. But the Russians have the advantage in the effect of public disapproval compared to the US if one of their pilots dies. Ten dead American pilots will hurt the public opinion in the US far more than fifty dead Russian pilots in Russia.

Then there's the whole drone warfare thing. US drones are simple to shoot down by the use of SAMs. And it's what the US is relying on in this theater. Russia is very much able to totally stop all drone strikes in Syria, without even launching a fighter. The US is also capable of taking out the SAM-network, but this will definitely lead to casualties among Russian personnel. We can all hope the Russians will just let this slide. But if they don't, they'll respond in a manner which makes American personnel die, and the Americans are for sure not going to let this slide.

Of all the stupid ideas, shooting on Russians ranks almost as high as shooting on Americans.

Pretty good analysis, except for the trite dimissal of the 5Gens, F-22 would be a key enabler, already is, and F-35 is close enough with the block 3i software to be used as well. The 5Gens would actually be used disproportionate to their fewer numbers, they're not Unicorns at all.

[SuburbanFarmer]

The Russians will not be at an advantage militarily when it comes to air-to-air combat. But they can definitely shoot down some of the US fighters. The F-35 isn't operational yet, and the F-22 is an expensive unicorn not worth taking the risk to lose. It will be SU-27s and SU35s against Hornets, Eagles and Falcons.

Of course the coalition has an advantage, both in numbers, sensors, and sensor networking. But the Russians have the advantage in the effect of public disapproval compared to the US if one of their pilots dies. Ten dead American pilots will hurt the public opinion in the US far more than fifty dead Russian pilots in Russia.

Then there's the whole drone warfare thing. US drones are simple to shoot down by the use of SAMs. And it's what the US is relying on in this theater. Russia is very much able to totally stop all drone strikes in Syria, without even launching a fighter. The US is also capable of taking out the SAM-network, but this will definitely lead to casualties among Russian personnel. We can all hope the Russians will just let this slide. But if they don't, they'll respond in a manner which makes American personnel die, and the Americans are for sure not going to let this slide.

Of all the stupid ideas, shooting on Russians ranks almost as high as shooting on Americans.

Pretty good analysis, except for the trite dimissal of the 5Gens, F-22 would be a key enabler, already is, and F-35 is close enough with the block 3i software to be used as well. The 5Gens would actually be used disproportionate to their fewer numbers, they're not Unicorns at all.

How many nukes can they carry?