No lie. and on a 1.87" (4.7cm) barrel a little jump is a lot of miss downrange. That's why I think these sorts of guns make good carry pieces and pretty good home defense guns. If you need to hit something 20-25' (or closer) in front of you, you're probably going to be fine. If your need to hit something 50 yards away . . . why did you bring a tiny hammerless revolver? That was a bad call.Smitty-48 wrote:Hammerless is good for clothing conceal, but the hammer is better for accuracy, the double action pull will make your front sight jump.
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jediuser598 wrote:By the standard that he's the Republican President of the United States. I get that you want to distance yourself from him, but he's still the leader of the Republican party at this moment.Says the guy who can't stop bashing liberals while the leader of the conservative movement is saying "lets take away their guns without due process." (Trump is "leader of the conservative movement" now? By whose standard?)
"Ronna Romney McDaniel (born
January 19, 1973) is the current
Chair of the Republican National
Committee (RNC) . . ."
You begin to realize how long it would take for me to bring up to speed on just the basic facts at this point, right?
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DBTrek wrote:I think the same thing. There's so much I like about them, but medium distance accuracy isn't one of them (for me, at least). CT grips or a Centerfire would probably increase their accuracy at a distance significantly. But then . . . there goes the whole element of surprise. It's a tradeoff between better range or maintaining surprise. For home, I'll take surprise.C-Mag wrote:Yeah, their awesome.
Got one for my wife years ago, enclosed hammer, airweight, she loves it, I'll carry it two. I would like to try some crimson trace grips on it.
I mean - I'm not Martin Hash . . . not like I have bowling alley sized entry rooms with high chandeliers. I can hit anything I see in my house with a baseball, so I imagine I could do the same with just about any handgun around.
Except this thing.
WTF?
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Were gonna skip that in the Second American Civil War and go straight to milling ARs.
I can fire my enclosed hammer single action, with some effort. The accuracy is not great, and being the alloy airweight doesn't help, but it is so damn easy to pack. You forget its there.
The wife actually had to draw it to keep a drunken cannuck out of the house once. He saw the ordnance and ran.
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Hey, I can't help you're abandoning your party. Or maybe your party abandoned you?
Trump is the head of the Republican party atm. You can say whatever you want but ol' tangerine is at the forefront of what it is to be a Republican. Stepping out on your marriage? That's Republican now. Torture? Republican. Taking away gun rights without due process? Republican. Republicans gave up most of their core values to win an election, lead by a guy who's just a "well this feels like the most politically expedient thing to do at the moment."
Want to hang on to the smallest bit of semantics, in a "forest but for the trees" rhetorical side-step? Yeah, go ahead, won't stop you. Condescend all you want but I laugh as this guy tears apart republican values from the inside out. He's making your brand, believe that. He is conservatism at the moment.
Trump is the head of the Republican party atm. You can say whatever you want but ol' tangerine is at the forefront of what it is to be a Republican. Stepping out on your marriage? That's Republican now. Torture? Republican. Taking away gun rights without due process? Republican. Republicans gave up most of their core values to win an election, lead by a guy who's just a "well this feels like the most politically expedient thing to do at the moment."
Want to hang on to the smallest bit of semantics, in a "forest but for the trees" rhetorical side-step? Yeah, go ahead, won't stop you. Condescend all you want but I laugh as this guy tears apart republican values from the inside out. He's making your brand, believe that. He is conservatism at the moment.
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Since I have seen you threaten imminent civil war over at least half a dozen issues, it is hard to take this one seriously.Speaker to Animals wrote:Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:It is hyperbole.Speaker to Animals wrote:
This has nothing to do with democracy. In fact, they wrote that explicitly in there to make it clear that democracy is constrained from ever violating these God-given rights.
A repeal of the second amendment -- I repeat -- is not only illegitimate but would be the opening of a civil war. You cannot justly take away our human rights. If you people somehow managed to just say to fuck with human rights altogether, then the rest of us are going to kill you. We have a duty as Americans to put down your tyrannical aspirations.
This isn't hyperbole. I am dead serious here. If this ever happened, we'd be at war.
Absolutely not. An attempt to "repeal" an inherent human right like that, especially the one that ensures self-government, is de facto civil war. You are a fucking deluded moron if you actually believe we won't fight over that. Dead serious: we will fight.
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Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Wow, Ruger LCR is only 13.5 ounces. That is light, yo.
That's another reason to make it your PT carry, can't get much lighter than that in .38spec, and it loads +P too.
S&W .357 M&P340 is close at 14oz, that's a tight whip too, but it's twice as expensive.
That's another reason to make it your PT carry, can't get much lighter than that in .38spec, and it loads +P too.
S&W .357 M&P340 is close at 14oz, that's a tight whip too, but it's twice as expensive.
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Sorry to hear that it is so dangerous now that you can't bring up a family unless you are armed.GrumpyCatFace wrote:Just in case. Things are getting a little too weird, and I've got a little too much to lose now.Montegriffo wrote:For what purpose?GrumpyCatFace wrote:Buying my first gun this weekend. Had to happen at some point.
Once I learn to shoot it, it's going to be locked away.
Please keep it locked up with the ammo locked up separately so your kids don't become another statistic.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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C-Mag wrote:DBTrek wrote:I think the same thing. There's so much I like about them, but medium distance accuracy isn't one of them (for me, at least). CT grips or a Centerfire would probably increase their accuracy at a distance significantly. But then . . . there goes the whole element of surprise. It's a tradeoff between better range or maintaining surprise. For home, I'll take surprise.C-Mag wrote:Yeah, their awesome.
Got one for my wife years ago, enclosed hammer, airweight, she loves it, I'll carry it two. I would like to try some crimson trace grips on it.
I mean - I'm not Martin Hash . . . not like I have bowling alley sized entry rooms with high chandeliers. I can hit anything I see in my house with a baseball, so I imagine I could do the same with just about any handgun around.
Except this thing.
WTF?
The Liberator !
Nazi Killer................. a repop will cost you a $500 https://vintageordnance.com/products/vo ... tor-pistol
Were gonna skip that in the Second American Civil War and go straight to milling ARs.
I can fire my enclosed hammer single action, with some effort. The accuracy is not great, and being the alloy airweight doesn't help, but it is so damn easy to pack. You forget its there.
The wife actually had to draw it to keep a drunken cannuck out of the house once. He saw the ordnance and ran.
Hammer price: $2250
This is one I didn't know about:
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I’m not a Republican. Been registered independent since 1997 and still am.jediuser598 wrote:Hey, I can't help you're abandoning your party. Or maybe your party abandoned you?
Each additional, error-riddled, hysterical rant you post does show us how much of a Democrat you are though. You’re in full meltdown mode because your party is now openly advocating the revocation of our rights. Wow. Kinda hard to call yourself an American and stand behind the party that actively despises our freedoms while simultaneously working as hard as possible for the rights, privileges, and legal immunity of non-citizens.
... but I’m sure you’ll find some way to convince yourself, after a few more sweat-inducing anti-Trump rants.
/shrug
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DBTrek wrote:I’m not a Republican. Been registered independent since 1997 and still am.jediuser598 wrote:Hey, I can't help you're abandoning your party. Or maybe your party abandoned you?
Each additional, error-riddled, hysterical rant you post does show us how much of a Democrat you are though. You’re in full meltdown mode because your party is now openly advocating the revocation of our rights. Wow. Kinda hard to call yourself an American and stand behind the party that actively despises our freedoms while simultaneously working as hard as possible for the rights, privileges, and legal immunity of non-citizens.
... but I’m sure you’ll find some way to convince yourself, after a few more sweat-inducing anti-Trump rants.
/shrug
Jedi is demonstrating my point that people are simply incapable of self governance - Jedi wants favors big nanny government over liberty....basically, Jedi is willing to trade away most of his liberty because values "safety" over liberty.....but he fails to see, or is willfully blind, the the long term consequences of ceding the right to bare arms to a government. In other words - Jedi is to much of a pussy to deserve freedom, and he's demanding that the rest of us become pussies too so that he can feel safe.