Talking to the other side - Antifa

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Re: Talking to the other side - Antifa

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:39 am

Tell you what, if there ever was a blantantly forced attempt at a de facto coup de tat in the USA, I could see things going rather Turkish about it, not necessarily with tanks and whatnot, but if one side tries to depose the other in flagrant disregard for the democratic process employing underhanded means, definitely could see the agrrieved parties reaching for the levers of state security to bring the hammer down upon their opponents with brute force.

Like, I don't see Fort Sumter on the horizon, but there are other ways to fight a civil war, particularly as the Civil War wasn't really a civil war at all. In this day and age, Robert E. Lee wouldn't ride out at the head of an army, things would be quite a bit more clandestine and shadowy than that.
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Re: Talking to the other side - Antifa

Post by DBTrek » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:43 am

I don't know . . . we kinda suck at the whole clandestine/shadowy thing.

Tanks are more our style.
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Re: Talking to the other side - Antifa

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:44 am

There already is a civil war in America. Two, really, that mirror one another; one within the government and the other playing out on the streets.

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Re: Talking to the other side - Antifa

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:47 am

DBTrek wrote:I don't know . . . we kinda suck at the whole clandestine/shadowy thing.

Tanks are more our style.
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Don't really need tanks tho, might have a few put about for secruity theater , but I would say something more in the nether realm between COINTELPRO and Erdogan.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:50 am

This new style civil war is not really new at all, either. This is just lower intensity street brawling in the fashion of the late Roman republic. The only thing keeping the lid on it now is that, unlike Rome, we have police, and there currently do not exist people like Clodius and Milo (the Roman Milo).

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Re: Talking to the other side - Antifa

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:58 am

The key thing is you just maintain the facade of the Rule of Law as a fig leaf over your totalitarian dictatorship, you don't necessarily crush people under the tank treads, but you do have the FBI rounding up other agents of the state and then have DOJ trying and convicting them for various ostensible crimes in a kangaroo court, in order to effect a purge of your ideological opponents from the National Security apparatus, then that National Seucurity apparatus becomes your ideological cudgel to hammer your political opponents into submission, with no kinetic engagements in play whatsoever.

I mean, it's not like Erdogan is coming out goose stepping saying "I'm der Fuhrer naow", he's saying "I'm simply defending our democracy from a mob"
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Re: Talking to the other side - Antifa

Post by DBTrek » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:07 am

Sounds great.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:17 am

Sort of flirting around the edges of it right now tho, you can definitely see the rough outlines of it already, wouldn't take much in this fevered and unhinged environment, when you're this polarized and asserting your political opponents to be "enemies of the state", that's half the battle right thur.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:34 am

You can already see it happening with Trump's counter-attack on the democrats.


This implosion is totally self-inflicted. Here we see all the major republicans repudiating any violence or hate on the right, and yet the democrats and the MSM are fawning over Antifa.

It's almost like the democrats want for there to be a Pinochet 2.0.

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Re: Talking to the other side - Antifa

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:37 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:You can already see it happening with Trump's counter-attack on the democrats.


This implosion is totally self-inflicted. Here we see all the major republicans repudiating any violence or hate on the right, and yet the democrats and the MSM are fawning over Antifa.

It's almost like the democrats want for there to be a Pinochet 2.0.
Wait.. do those words matter? I just want to be clear on what exactly we're supposed to take seriously from POTUS now...

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