Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by de officiis » Wed May 03, 2017 7:21 pm

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/ ... ed-kurdis/
The war of words between Washington and Ankara over the U.S. military’s partnership with Kurdish paramilitaries in Syria escalated Wednesday, when a senior aide to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan suggested American troops could be targeted alongside their Kurdish allies in the country’s ongoing air war against the militias.
So now we're threatened by a NATO member. How FUBAR can you get?
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Post by heydaralon » Wed May 03, 2017 7:23 pm

de officiis wrote:http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/ ... ed-kurdis/
The war of words between Washington and Ankara over the U.S. military’s partnership with Kurdish paramilitaries in Syria escalated Wednesday, when a senior aide to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan suggested American troops could be targeted alongside their Kurdish allies in the country’s ongoing air war against the militias.
So now we're threatened by a NATO member. How FUBAR can you get?
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by kybkh » Thu May 04, 2017 10:19 am

Strange, haven't heard about this much today.

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by kybkh » Thu May 04, 2017 10:21 am

heydaralon wrote:
de officiis wrote:http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/ ... ed-kurdis/
The war of words between Washington and Ankara over the U.S. military’s partnership with Kurdish paramilitaries in Syria escalated Wednesday, when a senior aide to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan suggested American troops could be targeted alongside their Kurdish allies in the country’s ongoing air war against the militias.
So now we're threatened by a NATO member. How FUBAR can you get?
NATO needs Turkey like a food prepper needs Hep C and no gloves.

Turkey offers a strategic location to die for. Location, location, location.
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu May 04, 2017 10:27 am

No one likes Erdogan except your gay crush Flynn.


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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-0 ... -civilians

How does Assad get fresh troops? Or does that even happen? His army must be made entirely of hardened veterans at this point. Pic related are brand new pro-Assad manbij militia, still in training.

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by BjornP » Thu May 04, 2017 11:56 am

TheReal_ND wrote:
How does Assad get fresh troops?
Through conscription. Btw, the soldiers in the pic seem to be wearing the Hezbollah armband. I guess you could call them a "militia", but I'd say they'd warrant a label that signifies that they're a bit of more professional than that.
de officiis wrote:So now we're threatened by a NATO member. How FUBAR can you get?
Perfectly understandable frustration from Turkey, tbh. Imagine that a NATO ally allied with a terrorist organization that has killed thousands of US troops, and your NATO ally and the terrorist organization were coordinating attacks aimed at undermining critical US interests in a neighbouring country? Say supporting seperatists in Texas who want to return to Mexico.

Doesn't mean it's a wise reaction. Or even a sympathetic one. But if the shoe were on the other foot.... who on Earth would tolerate having your own supposed allies working with terrorists committed to carving most of the eastern half of your country away? Erdogan's a tyrant in making, zero doubt about that, but his frustration and anger, feelings shared by alot of Turks... are perfectly sound.
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by Ph64 » Thu May 04, 2017 1:08 pm

de officiis wrote:http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/ ... ed-kurdis/
The war of words between Washington and Ankara over the U.S. military’s partnership with Kurdish paramilitaries in Syria escalated Wednesday, when a senior aide to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan suggested American troops could be targeted alongside their Kurdish allies in the country’s ongoing air war against the militias.
So now we're threatened by a NATO member. How FUBAR can you get?
What does Article 5 have to say about that? If Turkey attacks US troops, does France have to nuke Turkey in retaliation? If the US attacks Turkey, should we be expecting NYC to be nuked by the UK in retaliation?? :think:
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu May 04, 2017 1:13 pm

Ph64 wrote:
de officiis wrote:http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/ ... ed-kurdis/
The war of words between Washington and Ankara over the U.S. military’s partnership with Kurdish paramilitaries in Syria escalated Wednesday, when a senior aide to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan suggested American troops could be targeted alongside their Kurdish allies in the country’s ongoing air war against the militias.
So now we're threatened by a NATO member. How FUBAR can you get?
What does Article 5 have to say about that? If Turkey attacks US troops, does France have to nuke Turkey in retaliation? If the US attacks Turkey, should we be expecting NYC to be nuked by the UK in retaliation?? :think:
Goddammit.

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by Ph64 » Thu May 04, 2017 1:24 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote: Goddammit.

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Wait, I know that one, Sarah Palin mentioned it... Paul Revere riding to warn the British, right? :roll:
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu May 04, 2017 3:24 pm

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Developments May 4
Palmyra you must not have edition:
>Astana:Ru, Iran, Turkey agree to safe zones in Idlib, Latakia, Homs & Aleppo parts
aim to separate rebels from IS and Nusra, movement of unarmed civis+huanitarian access
Opposition rebels did not accept because IRAN & this will 'threaten Syria’s territorial integrity'
>report:IS withdraws from Tabqa dam to Raqqa after deal with SDF, SDF denied
>E Ghouta rebel war:130 rebels dead,500 rebels+civis wounded
>Palmyra:SAA captured 4 points from IS near Talilah Crossroad
>DeZ:SAA advances as they attempt to lift siege on airport
>N Hama:jihadist suprise offensive in Wadi Al-adib area ends with no gains
>Al-Qaboun:SAA victory within days after new push, negotioations for rebel surrender ongoing
>TASS:Al Jazeera staged clips about ‘new chemical weapons’ to release soon via social networks