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Re: Statues

Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:19 pm

Penner wrote:
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Not what it's about Penner, though it may be for you, I don't want to put words in your mouth. In a free society we should be able to interpret history for ourselves. These folks are forcing their intolerance on everyone else.
1000% guarantee that Penner knows the motivations of everyone, everywhere, always. If they disagree with her, racist.
But if the local government and/or local groups actually want it to take down any statues that are on public property why should people from outside demand that they don't?
You've got that bass ackwards, little sister.
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Re: Statues

Post by Penner » Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:25 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
Penner wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
1000% guarantee that Penner knows the motivations of everyone, everywhere, always. If they disagree with her, racist.
But if the local government and/or local groups actually want it to take down any statues that are on public property why should people from outside demand that they don't?
You've got that bass ackwards, little sister.
Why did Charlotteville rename the park where the statue was located to "Emancipation Park" from "Lee's Park"? Also, all the reports that I have heard was that the city voted to remove the statue.
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Re: Statues

Post by Penner » Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:28 pm

Two Saturdays ago, my community witnessed an appalling nighttime demonstration by white nationalist Richard Spencer and his followers, complete with torches held aloft, in a frightening image that went around the world. They came to protest the recent decision by our City Council to remove and sell our statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee, erected during the Jim Crow era.

I immediately released a statement saying that the rally took us “back to the days of the KKK” and that “intolerance is not welcome” in Charlottesville. I find their ideology and their methods repellent. And I believe that as a nation, in 2017, we still haven’t fully confronted our history of racism.
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Re: Statues

Post by Fife » Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:30 pm

Fucking Democrats.

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Re: Statues

Post by C-Mag » Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:32 pm

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It seems very grass roots to me and I haven't heard about anyone being paid to destroy anything (and again I don't believe in any Soros and Democrat involvement here). Just that the demographics are changing and along with that is a different attitude to what they see as a symbol of racism and a bygone era of slavery, oppression, treason, murder, etc....
Grass Roots assembly of Actors paid $25 and hour......... afterall, they need to do something with their liberal arts degrees
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Penner wrote:I guess the time are just changing and some people are trying to drag their feet.
Well, I'm dragging my feet on violent protests, even if it's the in thing to do in these changing times. Sound like you're all on board with the intolerance and violence going on Penner.

Penner wrote: Look white culture to me isn't about the Confederacy and I don't identify as a Confederate nor do I hold any sympathize with them.
Neither do I. Just because I'm not for all this intolerance and violence doesn't make me a Confederate
Penner wrote:If anything my culture would be the opposite as a Northern. My people fought to preserve the Union and not to secede from it-so I just don't really give a fuck. People will always remember the Civil War, like how people will always remember WWI and WWII (or at least until they stop teaching to school children).
I'm glad you made the comparison to WWI and WWII. Why aren't these groups for tearing down statues of Woodrow Wilson or FDR, they were both a couple of huge racists.
Penner wrote:So, overall, this isn't a sign that "white culture" is being eased and I would rather have more people identify white culture with people like the Greek/Roman philosophers, calculus, etc.... then Southern Confederates.
During the last Century of Rome it was quite common for Senators to hire violent Mobs to force public opinion. Nothing new here. Has nothing to do with 'White Culture', it's about power.
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Re: Statues

Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:34 pm

C-Mag wrote:During the last Century of Rome it was quite common for Senators to hire violent Mobs to force public opinion. Nothing new here. Has nothing to do with 'White Culture', it's about power.
And Penner is all for that shit. So is Grumps.
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Re: Statues

Post by C-Mag » Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:37 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
C-Mag wrote:During the last Century of Rome it was quite common for Senators to hire violent Mobs to force public opinion. Nothing new here. Has nothing to do with 'White Culture', it's about power.
And Penner is all for that shit. So is Grumps.
Ends justify the means. The Commies had it down pretty well too. The Russian Commies who wrote the first play book on prol mob work were great at it. First thing they did is neuter the Military and Police. Make a separate deal with standing security to stay out of the fight, STAND DOWN.

But you know what, the purges always follow.
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Re: Statues

Post by Penner » Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:43 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Penner wrote:
It seems very grass roots to me and I haven't heard about anyone being paid to destroy anything (and again I don't believe in any Soros and Democrat involvement here). Just that the demographics are changing and along with that is a different attitude to what they see as a symbol of racism and a bygone era of slavery, oppression, treason, murder, etc....
Grass Roots assembly of Actors paid $25 and hour......... afterall, they need to do something with their liberal arts degrees
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-1 ... -wee/quote]

Well, unless this isn't a conspiracy theory (like the whole idea that everything that the LEft does is Soros' funded) and I haven't heard once people actually being paid to do anything. If anything actions like Dylann Roof and James Field Jr is clearly making people turn away from the pro-statue side.

Penner wrote:I guess the time are just changing and some people are trying to drag their feet.
Well, I'm dragging my feet on violent protests, even if it's the in thing to do in these changing times. Sound like you're all on board with the intolerance and violence going on Penner.
If the local government voted to remove it why should people NOT from the town make the final decision on whether or not it should be removed? Was it built with money from outside the town; like from the state and/or around the nation? As with the violence, it was a member of the Alt-Right side that killed someone at the rally.

Penner wrote: Look white culture to me isn't about the Confederacy and I don't identify as a Confederate nor do I hold any sympathize with them.
Neither do I. Just because I'm not for all this intolerance and violence doesn't make me a Confederate
What intolerance? The people's voice isn't being heard. The local government voted to remove the statue. Plain and simple. If they want to remove it then fine remove it, change the park's name, change a street name, etc... It is after all the local people's will.

Penner wrote:If anything my culture would be the opposite as a Northern. My people fought to preserve the Union and not to secede from it-so I just don't really give a fuck. People will always remember the Civil War, like how people will always remember WWI and WWII (or at least until they stop teaching to school children).
I'm glad you made the comparison to WWI and WWII. Why aren't these groups for tearing down statues of Woodrow Wilson or FDR, they were both a couple of huge racists.
Wilson and FDR didn't take arms up on the government/Constitution they swore an oath to protect, did they?
Penner wrote:So, overall, this isn't a sign that "white culture" is being eased and I would rather have more people identify white culture with people like the Greek/Roman philosophers, calculus, etc.... then Southern Confederates.
During the last Century of Rome it was quite common for Senators to hire violent Mobs to force public opinion. Nothing new here. Has nothing to do with 'White Culture', it's about power.
Rome had its violence and so did Greece. Those weren't 100% happy times but the Civil War all around was misery for everyone.Again, if a town wants to get rid of a statue that they first proposed in 1917 and finally completed in 1924then why do they have to stay?
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Re: Statues

Post by heydaralon » Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:46 pm

Why are you quoting yourself?
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Re: Statues

Post by Penner » Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:48 pm

heydaralon wrote:Why are you quoting yourself?

I am trying to reply to his different quotes. Since he replied to me by breaking up my quotes and I am totally fucking up the format of it. So, I am just going to reply to his different points in green.
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