The current crop of left wing debaters is weak

[clubgop]

Le sigh. Ok jackalope. Pics of your missile launcher please?

Pics of the people willing to operate said missle laucher on their own civilian population? You hate vetetans but expect them to be your force to crush all political dissent. Where was the viet congs missle laucher, or the taliban one, or any insurgency.

[Martin Hash]

Grumps' arguments are always mired in scorn & ridicule, like any Lefty. I think it's their natural reaction to always being overmatched. When Grumps is not on the wrong side of logic, he's rational & reasonable.

[clubgop]

Grumps' arguments are always mired in scorn & ridicule, like any Lefty. I think it's their natural reaction to always being overmatched. When Grumps is not on the wrong side of logic, he's rational & reasonable.

But this is ICP level.

"2nd Amendment? How does it work?
And I don't wanna read the framers. They all motherfuckering liars and getting me pissed."

[SuburbanFarmer]

"Shall not be infringed" seems to mean something like I'll buy all the small arms I can carry, and bitch up the political system over it, but actual arms that could oppose the government? Noooooo don't need em. I just need to maintain my Rambo fantasy of storming the congress with a battle rifle.

NOO NO FUCK YOU COMMIE ITS A SIG SAUER X35JO CUMSUCKER III!! You have no idea what you're talking about I win fuck you traitor!

We always come back to the same old clownshow.

[Hwen Hoshino]

"Shall not be infringed" seems to mean something like I'll buy all the small arms I can carry, and bitch up the political system over it, but actual arms that could oppose the government? Noooooo don't need em. I just need to maintain my Rambo fantasy of storming the congress with a battle rifle.

NOO NO FUCK YOU COMMIE ITS A SIG SAUER X35JO CUMSUCKER III!! You have no idea what you're talking about I win fuck you traitor!

How is the political system bitched by gun ownership?

[SuburbanFarmer]

"Shall not be infringed" seems to mean something like I'll buy all the small arms I can carry, and bitch up the political system over it, but actual arms that could oppose the government? Noooooo don't need em. I just need to maintain my Rambo fantasy of storming the congress with a battle rifle.

NOO NO FUCK YOU COMMIE ITS A SIG SAUER X35JO CUMSUCKER III!! You have no idea what you're talking about I win fuck you traitor!

How is the political system bitched by gun ownership?

Ownership itself - not at all. Endless bickering and political nonsense over background checks or regulation - completely.

[Martin Hash]

"Shall not be infringed" seems to mean something like I'll buy all the small arms I can carry, and bitch up the political system over it, but actual arms that could oppose the government? Noooooo don't need em. I just need to maintain my Rambo fantasy of storming the congress with a battle rifle.

NOO NO FUCK YOU COMMIE ITS A SIG SAUER X35JO CUMSUCKER III!! You have no idea what you're talking about I win fuck you traitor!

How is the political system bitched by gun ownership?

Ownership itself - not at all. Endless bickering and political nonsense over background checks or regulation - completely.

Easy problem to solve...

[TheReal_ND]

"Shall not be infringed" seems to mean something like I'll buy all the small arms I can carry, and bitch up the political system over it, but actual arms that could oppose the government? Noooooo don't need em. I just need to maintain my Rambo fantasy of storming the congress with a battle rifle.

NOO NO FUCK YOU COMMIE ITS A SIG SAUER X35JO CUMSUCKER III!! You have no idea what you're talking about I win fuck you traitor!

We always come back to the same old clownshow.

Ah. I see the dilemma here. He believes, as Dan did, that owning firearms is pointless now for many reasons and one of them being insurgency is impossible now. To which I would point him at Afghanistan and ask him what would happen in White Afghanistan (the Appalachias,) if there ever were a full borne insurgency. All those UAV drones and satellites haven't won a single war yet anyway.

[Hwen Hoshino]

"Shall not be infringed" seems to mean something like I'll buy all the small arms I can carry, and bitch up the political system over it, but actual arms that could oppose the government? Noooooo don't need em. I just need to maintain my Rambo fantasy of storming the congress with a battle rifle.

NOO NO FUCK YOU COMMIE ITS A SIG SAUER X35JO CUMSUCKER III!! You have no idea what you're talking about I win fuck you traitor!

How is the political system bitched by gun ownership?

Ownership itself - not at all. Endless bickering and political nonsense over background checks or regulation - completely.

What other issues cannot be worked on because of it?

[SuburbanFarmer]

"Shall not be infringed" seems to mean something like I'll buy all the small arms I can carry, and bitch up the political system over it, but actual arms that could oppose the government? Noooooo don't need em. I just need to maintain my Rambo fantasy of storming the congress with a battle rifle.

NOO NO FUCK YOU COMMIE ITS A SIG SAUER X35JO CUMSUCKER III!! You have no idea what you're talking about I win fuck you traitor!

We always come back to the same old clownshow.

Ah. I see the dilemma here. He believes, as Dan did, that owning firearms is pointless now for many reasons and one of them being insurgency is impossible now. To which I would point him at Afghanistan and ask him what would happen in White Afghanistan (the Appalachias,) if there ever were a full borne insurgency. All those UAV drones and satellites haven't won a single war yet anyway.

I don't deny that some pockets of resistance could survive a civil war or uprising. That's not really the same thing as actually overthrowing the government, is it.

You have to come down out of those mountains to actually take the government. And the US armed forces will be waiting.

The only way anything like this happens is if the military decides to take your side. Small arms are meaningless in such a scenario, and they wouldn't be raising citizen militias for it anyway.