Holding China accountable?

[Xenophon]

If China is to be considered accountable for the health-related and economic outcomes of COVID-19, what form should that ideally take? National government's official sanctions, call for private citizens boycutting Chinese goods, or something else?

Or should China just not face any repurcussions at all, it being considered f.ex. the US', Italy's, etc. responsibility that the virus entered their countries? Thoughts?

We can't even hold our own leaders accountable for their retardation I sure as fuck don't need to hear them prattle on about China. Who's going to reshore everything? Nobody that's who.

Proles get what proles deserve - it’s the natural order that proles loose their liberty - they’re simple to incompetent.

Time to find a “Great House” and make your bloodline useful and loyal - or be prepared to eat shit and die like a prole.

This.

[BjornP]

If China is to be considered accountable for the health-related and economic outcomes of COVID-19, what form should that ideally take? National government's official sanctions, call for private citizens boycutting Chinese goods, or something else?

Or should China just not face any repurcussions at all, it being considered f.ex. the US', Italy's, etc. responsibility that the virus entered their countries? Thoughts?

This is a great question. I just saw this thread. I have discussed in here how sanctions do not generally work. They don't really affect the regime, just ordinary folks, and in some cases like Iran, they actually strengthen the regime by giving them monopolies over black market circumventions.

I don't have a good answer for this one dude. I have thought about it quite a bit, and I just don't know.

To my mind, the most efficient, long term, and most.... hard-hitting option seems to be government sanctions of some form. Not going to be efficient if it's just a single country, of course. The best argument in favor of just keeping it to the private market, as in in the form of privat boycuts, is that government sanctions can end fast if China waves some economic incentives in everyone's face. Also, it possibly opens one's own country up to being held accountable for something by world leaders, in the near future. And the "prize" should really be the erosion of global, popular trust in China. Aside from a country like Italy (which currently favors China over the US and EU, according to stats), most countries seem not to trust the Chinese government's attempts at misdirection.

Problem with just relying on the private citizen boycuts, is that China makes alot of cheap stuff. I won't even pretend that I'm one of those consciable consumers who check where a product has been made before I buy it. I look at the price.

[Ph64]

I prefer women with longer hair.
Maybe you prefer them with "boycuts", I dunno.
Although shorter hair can look ok on them in some cases.

[BjornP]

I don’t conform to your Marxist spelling tyranny.

[heydaralon]

I don’t conform to your Marxist spelling tyranny.

Where do you get your signatures from? Are they quotes from somewhere, or are these things you have come up with? I've liked a couple of the ones you've had.

Can you explain the current one?

[TheReal_ND]

I don’t conform to your Marxist spelling tyranny.

Where do you get your signatures from? Are they quotes from somewhere, or are these things you have come up with? I've liked a couple of the ones you've had.

Can you explain the current one?

They are profound statements he comes to over a reefer cigarette.

[heydaralon]

I don’t conform to your Marxist spelling tyranny.

Where do you get your signatures from? Are they quotes from somewhere, or are these things you have come up with? I've liked a couple of the ones you've had.

Can you explain the current one?

They are profound statements he comes to over a reefer cigarette.

He is a documented radical socialist with bolshevik tendencies and they certainly smoke weed from what I can tell, but I am curious as to where these sigs are coming from.

[TheReal_ND]

Where do you get your signatures from? Are they quotes from somewhere, or are these things you have come up with? I've liked a couple of the ones you've had.

Can you explain the current one?

They are profound statements he comes to over a reefer cigarette.

He is a documented radical socialist with bolshevik tendencies and they certainly smoke weed from what I can tell, but I am curious as to where these sigs are coming from.

I just told you. I've been looking at his sigs for years. They are things that he wants to project in to a conversation but never does because he thinks they are too deep for us to get. They are actually laughably trite but w/e. He's a cool dude I don't give him greif over it.

[BjornP]

I don’t conform to your Marxist spelling tyranny.

Where do you get your signatures from? Are they quotes from somewhere, or are these things you have come up with? I've liked a couple of the ones you've had.

Can you explain the current one?

They're my own. I have used some actual quotes in the past, but I usually take care to attribute the author, then. I tend to change sig whenever I manage come up with a short and to the point way of framing either some belief of mine, or I want to comment on the beliefs of others.

This particular sig ("Hatred is a lack of validation. Oppression is not to be taken seriously. Facts are democratic.") is somewhat pessimistic and sarcastic, but it's a comment on victimhood culture (the two first parts of the sig) and on how facts don't have to matter as long as there are enough people to repeat the falsehoods (last part). It's just a despondent, misantrophic observation that's not new for me, but it just felt like I saw it everywhere I looked on the day that I changed the sig. I am channelling what I think those sort of people think, and how they think. Unsurprisingly, since I do lean way more left than most of this forum, and since I've actually have had many discussions with genuine Communists, I don't subscribe to the notion that victimhood culture is some singularly "Leftist" thing. Trump is as much a prime example of someone who frames criticism and lack of validation as if he's being victimized, as purple-haired men who insist that they're "really" women will insist that anyone who don't agree, "hates" them too. It's all the same mindset.

Oh, and I haven't done weed since 2003. And monarchists don't really get as much street cred among radically socialist bolheviks as you might think.

[Montegriffo]

Shame, I recon a ''high as giraffe pussy'' Bjorn would be amusing.
It might loosen up a bit of that renowned Scandinavian earnestness.