Teenagers hit by strong labor market

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Re: Teenagers hit by strong labor market

Post by MilSpecs » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:36 pm

DBTrek wrote:There aren’t plenty of skilled workers whose productivity demands more than “poverty wages” struggling to find work. You see the problem as employers being too stupid to hire people that will make them money. I see it as workers being to stupid to understand their lack of skills is holding them back. If they were worth more they would be paid more.
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Wages have been a race to the bottom even with skilled workers. Quality seems to be the same - Fewer companies will pay for higher quality workers and their products reflect it. The companies aren’t held to account and don’t have much competition so why should they pay quality workers for a quality product.

It’s easy to see what’s coming next. Take enough from retirees that they’re forced to go back to work and voila - cheap higher quality workers. Everyone loses except the people at the top.
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Re: Teenagers hit by strong labor market

Post by doc_loliday » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:42 pm

Wages have always been a race to the bottom because customers buy the cheapest goods possible. The motivations are the same.

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Re: Teenagers hit by strong labor market

Post by MilSpecs » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:47 pm

doc_loliday wrote:Wages have always been a race to the bottom because customers buy the cheapest goods possible. The motivations are the same.
And yet it didn’t used to be that so many companies were bottom feeders with so many more to feed from. There was a range of quality and a concurrent range of workers.
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Re: Teenagers hit by strong labor market

Post by DBTrek » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:00 pm

Wages are fine, you’re all living in bigger houses with more conveniences than your grandparents ever did. You’ve simply fallen for the socialist smoke-and-mirrors redefinition of terms that seeks to convince citizens of the most prosperous nation on earth that they really live in Honduras.

You should probably be able to look at the sheer amount of possessions you own, your access to every kind of convenience and vice, your handheld computer phone tablets and temperature controlled housing and figure out you’re being lied to.

But most people aren’t. They see a color graph or a meme of two grocery baskets side by side and believe the lie that 30 years ago everyone had gold plated swimming pools, but today we’re a society of busted sharecroppers. And you’ll immediately grab your iPhone so you can post to FB about how poor we all are compared to the WW2 generation.

Lulz

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Re: Teenagers hit by strong labor market

Post by MilSpecs » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:39 pm

Well I would never complain about my circumstances since no matter what I’m always doing better than I started, but I see people in very different positions everyday. Cutting out every little luxury they have wouldn’t help. I spoke to a 70yo today who is still working full time and is drowning in medical bills. He’s a skilled worker. The company just doesn’t care about skills. They would hire an illiterate if they could get away with it.
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Re: Teenagers hit by strong labor market

Post by C-Mag » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:42 pm

DBTrek wrote:Wages are fine, you’re all living in bigger houses with more conveniences than your grandparents ever did. You’ve simply fallen for the socialist smoke-and-mirrors redefinition of terms that seeks to convince citizens of the most prosperous nation on earth that they really live in Honduras.

You should probably be able to look at the sheer amount of possessions you own, your access to every kind of convenience and vice, your handheld computer phone tablets and temperature controlled housing and figure out you’re being lied to.

But most people aren’t. They see a color graph or a meme of two grocery baskets side by side and believe the lie that 30 years ago everyone had gold plated swimming pools, but today we’re a society of busted sharecroppers. And you’ll immediately grab your iPhone so you can post to FB about how poor we all are compared to the WW2 generation.

Lulz

Wake up.
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Re: Teenagers hit by strong labor market

Post by DBTrek » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:15 pm

MilSpecs wrote:Well I would never complain about my circumstances since no matter what I’m always doing better than I started, but I see people in very different positions everyday. Cutting out every little luxury they have wouldn’t help. I spoke to a 70yo today who is still working full time and is drowning in medical bills. He’s a skilled worker. The company just doesn’t care about skills. They would hire an illiterate if they could get away with it.
Sure ... we’re not bankrupt proof. You know what folks did before drowning in medical bills?
They died.

Now we can prolong life through really expensive medical procedures or costly medicine, and you don’t die. But you won’t own two cars. Still a better deal.

The metrics used to measure the purchasing power of the dollar over time are slanted to make the dollar appear to be constantly losing value. Think about it, it’s been losing value your whole life compared to “a decade ago”, right? And you’ve lived many decades. Your parents lived many decades. The dollar is still here. Decade after decade after decade of supposedly losing purchasing power, and it still ain’t Rwandan money. Why, it beggars belief. But actually - the metric is skewed.

The other thing never taken into account is falling prices. Sure, your government subsidized agricultural goods aren’t going any lower - your taxes ensure that’s a given. But you probably couldn’t afford a broadcast quality camcorder when they first hit the market. Ten years later you could probably buy one a month if you wanted to - ohhhh but the dollar is always in decline, right? Most of us couldn’t afford smartphones the year they came out. Fast forward ten years - who doesn’t have one? Ohhhh but that ever-falling dollar.

Sometimes you have to disregard the narrative being peddled by socialists. On economic matters, this is almost always the case.

Wages are fine. Dollar is fine. Metrics are slanted to make you believe something is true, but if you step back and really look at it - it’s not true.
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Re: Teenagers hit by strong labor market

Post by TheOneX » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:13 pm

Most people complaining about jobs do not live in locations these types of jobs are available. Most people who are complaining about jobs also have a college degree because they were told from very little they must get a college degree, and are expecting to find jobs in their field of study that they would be able to pay back their student loans with. When everyone is told you must get a college degree to get a job they are all going to get a college degree, and they are all going to be expecting to get a job for that degree. So you end up with a glut of people looking for college degree type of jobs, and a shortage of people looking for low skilled type jobs.

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Re: Teenagers hit by strong labor market

Post by clubgop » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:34 pm

Employers, Democrat Politicians everybody is writing off millenials as anything worthwhile. Seems accurate.

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Re: Teenagers hit by strong labor market

Post by doc_loliday » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:40 pm

MilSpecs wrote:
doc_loliday wrote:Wages have always been a race to the bottom because customers buy the cheapest goods possible. The motivations are the same.
And yet it didn’t used to be that so many companies were bottom feeders with so many more to feed from. There was a range of quality and a concurrent range of workers.

I don't think I agree. Aside from a few outliers, I suspect people have always paid their workers what they can get away with, while customers have always sought the cheapest price.