Need Advice - firing someone

[Viktorthepirate]

Another option would be just claw it back out of his compensation, if he comes to you and says he was shorted, you say, oh, no, we settled it up, the stuff from the credit you billed to us, we just deducted that.

HR contacted him and he offered that immediately.

It’s not about the money though... if he will steal that small amount of money when he is compensated so well... what else is he capable of?

[Smitty-48]

Just work up an intel file on him for now, gather evidence, keep it in your hip pocket, establish an unassailable pattern, then before you fire him, confront him with it and see what he has to say.

I am confronting Tuesday with the president.

I’m debating wheather to call him on his bullshit or just be robotic and say he violated policy.

If he's that valuable to you, why not just offer him the option to pay it back? Like, say there employee bloggins, we noticed that you billed us for some personal stuff, do you mind paying that back, we can just deduct it from your compensation is that is more convenient.

[Smitty-48]

Another option would be just claw it back out of his compensation, if he comes to you and says he was shorted, you say, oh, no, we settled it up, the stuff from the credit you billed to us, we just deducted that.

HR contacted him and he offered that immediately.

It’s not about the money though... if he will steal that small amount of money when he is compensated so well... what else is he capable of?

Yeah, but some guy you think is harmless could also be a serial killer, really depends what kind of business you are running, like if it was an NFL football team and he was the all pro wide receiver you'd put up with more, if he was the water boy on the bench you would put up with less.

[JohnDonne]

Before you confront him, might be a good idea to quietly get a corporate investigator on the case and make their own case file. Always good to have that third party credibility, imo.

[Viktorthepirate]

Just work up an intel file on him for now, gather evidence, keep it in your hip pocket, establish an unassailable pattern, then before you fire him, confront him with it and see what he has to say.

I am confronting Tuesday with the president.

I’m debating wheather to call him on his bullshit or just be robotic and say he violated policy.

If he's that valuable to you, why not just offer him the option to pay it back? Like, say there employee bloggins, we noticed that you billed us for some personal stuff, do you mind paying that back, we can just deduct it from your compensation is that is more convenient.

Good question.

It’s because I’ve seen this before.

I worked for another company in a lower position with a guy (named Mike) who did the same thing. They just came out with a new credit card policy that punished everyone instead of calling out or firing Mike for his bullshit.

About a year after I had left they shit canned him because he had opened a side business and was stealing business from the company he worked for but was billing travel expenses to his employer. They were literally paying for the privilege of being stole from.

It may appear logical to just let him off with an ass chewing because the money involved, but I’ve seen how this can spiral. People like that don’t change, they are who they are... in my experience

[Viktorthepirate]

Another option would be just claw it back out of his compensation, if he comes to you and says he was shorted, you say, oh, no, we settled it up, the stuff from the credit you billed to us, we just deducted that.

HR contacted him and he offered that immediately.

It’s not about the money though... if he will steal that small amount of money when he is compensated so well... what else is he capable of?

Yeah, but some guy you think is harmless could also be a serial killer, really depends what kind of business you are running, like if it was an NFL football team and he was the all pro wide receiver you'd put up with more, if he was the water boy on the bench you would put up with less.

This guy is Wayne Gretzky... it’s why this is hard.

[Viktorthepirate]

Before you confront him, might be a good idea to quietly get a corporate investigator on the case and make their own case file. Always good to have that third party credibility, imo.

Good advice, but I think the juice wouldn’t be worth the squeeze.

Those guys ain’t cheap.

[Smitty-48]

HR contacted him and he offered that immediately.

It’s not about the money though... if he will steal that small amount of money when he is compensated so well... what else is he capable of?

Yeah, but some guy you think is harmless could also be a serial killer, really depends what kind of business you are running, like if it was an NFL football team and he was the all pro wide receiver you'd put up with more, if he was the water boy on the bench you would put up with less.

This guy is Wayne Gretzky... it’s why this is hard.

Wayne Gretzky wouldn't steal, if he was Wayne Gretzky there wouldn't be a problem, he's not Wayne Gretzky he's Pete Rose.

[Smitty-48]

Bottom line, if he's your MVP, I'd try to see If you could work it out somehow, business is war, profit is life.

[Smitty-48]

I mean, if you were the Mafia, and he was earning like dat, you wouldn't whack him for skimming a bit, at least not yet.