Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian

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Re: Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian

Post by DBTrek » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:08 pm

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If the human driver in the driver seat is just sitting there checking their phone while the self-driving car runs people over, I gotta ask ... what’s the point of having the human in the car?

Will Uber pay me to not be liable for their vehicular manslaughter too? I’m on my phone right now. I’ll check it all day. Cut me a check plz.
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Re: Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:18 pm

If somebody is behind the wheel, then by default they are in control and liable.

The only way to get around that is to remove the controls so that everybody is a passenger with only an emergency shutdown switch of some kind.

She should be charged with vehicular manslaughter.

As an aside, this is why I would NEVER work for a company on a project like this. I say that as an AI guy.

We have not yet as a society grasped how to I degrade this kind of technology into our lives, and we are headed into a kind of dark age of diminishing capabilities and lack of accountability.

Hard pass.

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Re: Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:30 pm

I repeat: no citation was issued. Homeless bicyclers cutting across lanes at night die whether a human is driving or not.
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Re: Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian

Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:45 pm

Kath wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/19/se ... e-say.html

And so it begins. Video shows human in driver's seat was not watching the road.
Officials said an Arizona woman was killed after being struck by a self-driving Uber vehicle Sunday — an incident believed to be the first of its kind.

The accident in the Phoenix suburb of Tempe caused the company to suspend all testing of self-driving vehicles in cities across the country.

Tempe Police Sgt. Ronald Elcock told Fox News that Elaine Herzberg, 49, was walking outside of a crosswalk when she was struck by the vehicle just before 10 p.m.
What begins? Tens of thousands of people are killed by cars every year.
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Re: Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:53 pm

We invented jaywalking laws to make sure our public thoroughfares are for cars, not people, so I expect robots killing the less-dead on them is going to be something we get used to pretty quick.

It is unlikely the robots will have an opportunity to kill anyone with a high Social Credit score, so we needn't worry, fellow upstanding citizens.
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Post by brewster » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:57 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:It is unlikely the robots will have an opportunity to kill anyone with a high Social Credit score, so we needn't worry, fellow upstanding citizens.
Why would you say that? People with lovely credit scores are run down in our cities all the time by humans. It's just in the sticks that only the poor walk.
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Re: Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian

Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:59 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:We invented jaywalking laws to make sure our public thoroughfares are for cars, not people, so I expect robots killing the less-dead on them is going to be something we get used to pretty quick.

It is unlikely the robots will have an opportunity to kill anyone with a high Social Credit score, so we needn't worry, fellow upstanding citizens.
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Re: Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:04 pm

brewster wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:It is unlikely the robots will have an opportunity to kill anyone with a high Social Credit score, so we needn't worry, fellow upstanding citizens.
Why would you say that? People with lovely credit scores are run down in our cities all the time by humans. It's just in the sticks that only the poor walk.
For the safety of the citizenry, the logic of jaywalking laws will be expanded to the sidewalks of entire streets and possibly neighborhoods, and law abiding citizens will stay off them, just as they don't walk on the freeway.
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Re: Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:06 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:We invented jaywalking laws to make sure our public thoroughfares are for cars, not people, so I expect robots killing the less-dead on them is going to be something we get used to pretty quick.

It is unlikely the robots will have an opportunity to kill anyone with a high Social Credit score, so we needn't worry, fellow upstanding citizens.
Careful with all that edge.
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Re: Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian

Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:09 pm

Millions of distracted drivers will be replaced by millions of always alert self-driving cars.

Accidents will plummet. Deaths will plummet. Ambulance chasers will suffer.
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