How Much More Alpha Was Theodore Than Most Presidents?

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California wrote:Teddy is the second greatest man to ever live after Caesar.

I don't care if Caesar was the Queen of Bithinya, it was a different era

It wasn't even okay then.
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Speaker to Animals wrote:
California wrote:Teddy is the second greatest man to ever live after Caesar.

I don't care if Caesar was the Queen of Bithinya, it was a different era

It wasn't even okay then.
I know that. That's why the Queen of Bithinya name lives on to this day.

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Martin Hash wrote:To continue:
Teddy was the most famous man in the world. Riding up San Juan Hill, with a troop he assembled & led, in the only successful cavalry charge in history against an entrenched position against guns, his horse was shot out from under him, and both men to either side were killed. He lost his son while exploring the source of the Amazon in Ecuador, and ultimately died of the Yellow Fever he contracted there. His hunting collection was the start of the Museum of Natural History. He ESTABLISHED, organized, and funded as president the Conservation movement. His face is on Mt. Rushmore, for crissakes.

Not an Alpha! My god, what the hell else do you call that shit?!
Does it really count as a "cavalry charge" when the cavalry in question was dismounted?
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Teddy's my guy because I include Meta qualities in the "Alpha" definition. If being an Alpha's Alpha means wiping out Indians, being of suspect intelligence, and founder of the Democratic Party, I'm not ready to go there.
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Alexander PhiAlipson wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:To continue:
Teddy was the most famous man in the world. Riding up San Juan Hill, with a troop he assembled & led, in the only successful cavalry charge in history against an entrenched position against guns, his horse was shot out from under him, and both men to either side were killed. He lost his son while exploring the source of the Amazon in Ecuador, and ultimately died of the Yellow Fever he contracted there. His hunting collection was the start of the Museum of Natural History. He ESTABLISHED, organized, and funded as president the Conservation movement. His face is on Mt. Rushmore, for crissakes.

Not an Alpha! My god, what the hell else do you call that shit?!
Does it really count as a "cavalry charge" when the cavalry in question was dismounted?
I didn't find that in Morris' 3 volume Roosevelt biography; perhaps you could provide a page number?
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I'm sure we've all listened here, but Bolelli's HoF series on TR is epic
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Martin Hash wrote:Teddy's my guy because I include Meta qualities in the "Alpha" definition. If being an Alpha's Alpha means wiping out Indians, being of suspect intelligence, and founder of the Democratic Party, I'm not ready to go there.
If party affiliation factors into your definition of meta, then chances are you're unqualified to define the term.
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Martin Hash wrote:
Alexander PhiAlipson wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:To continue:
Teddy was the most famous man in the world. Riding up San Juan Hill, with a troop he assembled & led, in the only successful cavalry charge in history against an entrenched position against guns, his horse was shot out from under him, and both men to either side were killed. He lost his son while exploring the source of the Amazon in Ecuador, and ultimately died of the Yellow Fever he contracted there. His hunting collection was the start of the Museum of Natural History. He ESTABLISHED, organized, and funded as president the Conservation movement. His face is on Mt. Rushmore, for crissakes.

Not an Alpha! My god, what the hell else do you call that shit?!
Does it really count as a "cavalry charge" when the cavalry in question was dismounted?
I didn't find that in Morris' 3 volume Roosevelt biography; perhaps you could provide a page number?
They left most of the horses in Florida. Teddy dismounted his horse. I don't have those volumes in my personal library, but I could give you page numbers to books that you probably don't have.
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Alexander PhiAlipson wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:
Alexander PhiAlipson wrote: Does it really count as a "cavalry charge" when the cavalry in question was dismounted?
I didn't find that in Morris' 3 volume Roosevelt biography; perhaps you could provide a page number?
They left most of the horses in Florida. Teddy dismounted his horse. I don't have those volumes in my personal library, but I could give you page numbers to books that you don't have.
Okay. Give me page numbers, I'll Google it. Plus, I can cross-reference using Google.
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DBTrek wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:Teddy's my guy because I include Meta qualities in the "Alpha" definition. If being an Alpha's Alpha means wiping out Indians, being of suspect intelligence, and founder of the Democratic Party, I'm not ready to go there.
If party affiliation factors into your definition of meta, then chances are you're unqualified to define the term.
;)
You're confusing Alpha & Meta. (But the Party thing was just to be funny anyway.)
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