Ivan's not going to do anything, I will advise him of the strikes just prior to, not enough time for him to warn the NKs, but enough for him to know that the TRIAD is at DEFCON 2 throughout the operation, which is more than enough to deter him.KerningChameleon wrote:Even putting aside the questionable strategic logic of nuking Pyongyang, I'm sure the Russians would just be thrilled to see a few missiles suddenly rise from the ocean depths towards their general direction.Smitty-48 wrote:It's not going to cost America anything significant, nuclear weapons are comparitively cheap, exponentially cheaper than the conventional option.StCapps wrote:How does your call help America in any way that is worth the price?
Don't think a quick heads up on the Candy Red Phone will mollify him either. Ivan may not be Crazy, but he is (rightfully) Paranoid, and his sight ain't what it used to be either, what with his radars that kept getting the ranges on the last few NK long-range tests wrong and leading him to truly believe their weren't ICBMs despite literally everyone else watching (China, included) confirming they were. With Dead Hand still active, that's one hell of a gamble you're making to just give what for to some Old-School Communist Cosplaying Kings of the Dirt Hill.
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Ivan won't get paranoid that America will view them as an abomination next, when that was the only rationale used to justify nuking North Korea.Smitty-48 wrote:Ivan's not going to do anything, I will advise him of the strikes just prior to, not enough time for him to warn the NKs, but enough for him to know that the TRIAD is at DEFCON 2 throughout the operation, which is more than enough to deter him.
That sounds plausible, that's a state actor worthy of trust if ever there was one, they would take no steps that won't help America in light of such a situation.

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I'm not using missiles here btw, this is going to be all B61's from bombers and tac air.
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Ivan can be as paranoid as he pleases, he's still more than deterred by the TRIAD regardless.StCapps wrote:Ivan won't get paranoid that America will view them as an abomination next, when that was the only rationale used to justify nuking North Korea. That sounds plausible.Smitty-48 wrote:Ivan's not going to do anything, I will advise him of the strikes just prior to, not enough time for him to warn the NKs, but enough for him to know that the TRIAD is at DEFCON 2 throughout the operation, which is more than enough to deter him.
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If I'm Russia and America pulls that, I'd immediately begin setting up a pre-emptive strike against America and would strike the second I get a window. You can't trust such a nation won't nuke you first, so beat them to it. If the US will nuke North Korea when it makes less sense than it does to nuke Russia, why wouldn't they snap when North Korea goes down? Why would they assume that they weren't next?
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The Russians are not going to incite an all out massive retaliation countervalue exchange anihilating themselves in the process, over a few low yield tac nukes in Korea. I'm not nuking Ivan, it's none of his concern, and if he's concerned, oh well, that's just too bad.StCapps wrote:If I'm Russia and America pulls that, I'd immediately begin setting up a pre-emptive strike against America and would strike the second I get a window. You can't trust such a nation won't nuke you first, so nuke them first.
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If America did it for no reason at all, that would be plenty of reason. You can't trust America won't nuke you for no reason, the next chance they get, they just did it to a country that wronged them nowhere near as much as Russia has, and you aren't going to react in a way that doesn't hurt America more than they gain by taking out North Korea. China won't be happy to be receiving fallout from a nuked North Korea either, if you're China how are you not freaking the fuck out, advanced warning or not?Smitty-48 wrote:The Russians are not going to incite an all out massive retaliation countervalue exchange anihilating themselves in the process, over a few low yield tac nukes in Korea.StCapps wrote:If I'm Russia and America pulls that, I'd immediately begin setting up a pre-emptive strike against America and would strike the second I get a window. You can't trust such a nation won't nuke you first, so nuke them first.
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Yeah, well, suck it, Ivan, you'd best not fuck with us then, because you well know that you don't stand a chance if it ever comes to that.StCapps wrote:If America did it for no reason at all, that would be plenty of reason. You can't trust America won't nuke you for no reason, the next chance they get.Smitty-48 wrote:The Russians are not going to incite an all out massive retaliation countervalue exchange anihilating themselves in the process, over a few low yield tac nukes in Korea.StCapps wrote:If I'm Russia and America pulls that, I'd immediately begin setting up a pre-emptive strike against America and would strike the second I get a window. You can't trust such a nation won't nuke you first, so nuke them first.
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Better to take as many Americans with them as they can, since America is going to nuke them anyway, perhaps for no discernable reason, if Smitty is CinC anyway.Smitty-48 wrote:Yeah, well, suck it, Ivan, you'd best not fuck with us then, because you well know that you don't stand a chance if it ever comes to that.StCapps wrote:If America did it for no reason at all, that would be plenty of reason. You can't trust America won't nuke you for no reason, the next chance they get.Smitty-48 wrote:
The Russians are not going to incite an all out massive retaliation countervalue exchange anihilating themselves in the process, over a few low yield tac nukes in Korea.
Use em' or lose em', America would be coming for Russia next, the Russians would be forced to prepare accordingly, and they'd be full retard to assume otherwise. America has only nuked a nation that couldn't retaliate in kind, the second the US nukes a nation who could retaliate, other nations with nukes would be fools to not take notice and take precautions that it doesn't also happen to them, and that won't play for American interests. Nuking North Korea isn't worth it, any way that you slice it.
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Ivan's not going to do that, but tell you what, when you're CinC, you can suck Ivan's dick and try to appease him, but when I'm CinC, Ivan will be on notice, all options are on the table, so stick to your knitting, Ivan, we know you ain't gonna do shit about shit, so don't bother fronting, your bluff is called, and we just raised you too, bitch.StCapps wrote:Better to take as many Americans with them as they can, since America is going to nuke them anyway, perhaps for no discernable reason, if Smitty is CinC anyway.Smitty-48 wrote:Yeah, well, suck it, Ivan, you'd best not fuck with us then, because you well know that you don't stand a chance if it ever comes to that.StCapps wrote:If America did it for no reason at all, that would be plenty of reason. You can't trust America won't nuke you for no reason, the next chance they get.
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