War a part of human nature?

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War a part of human nature?

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Would it even be possible to live without war as a species for any extended length of time? I don't think so, but what about you all?
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Territorial Apex Predator Uber Chimpanzee; human nature, related to territory/resources, only limitless territory/resources could significantly alter. Transhumanism plausible, but then; no longer human nature, so; moot.
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Violence yes. War after it can live in relative comfort not necessarily.
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Smitty-48 wrote:Territorial Apex Predator Uber Chimpanzee; human nature, related to territory/resources, only limitless territory/resources could significantly alter. Transhumanism plausible, but then; no longer human nature, so; moot.
Look at Chimpanzee "wars" for the explanation of why humans have wars. It is part of being an uberprimate
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Using history as a guide, absolutely not. Even history aside, no. Even on a biological level, talking about self-preservation, it's essentially guaranteed that in some instance somewhere in the world, self-preservation is only possible through war.
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Nope. The very idea of nations is basically a drawing a line in the sand. Humans like line and herding into groups.
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I wouldn't say war is a part of human nature as much as survival is a part of human nature. Rationalization regarding survival often ends with a consensus on war, and for one side it's often born out.
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Okeefenokee wrote:I wouldn't say war is a part of human nature as much as survival is a part of human nature. Rationalization regarding survival often ends with a consensus on war, and for one side it's often born out.
Well, I would say war is a consequence of the human proclivity to band together in a group and then demonize an out group. Survival ends up being a mutual illusion, because the reality is that there is enough for all.
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Haumana wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:I wouldn't say war is a part of human nature as much as survival is a part of human nature. Rationalization regarding survival often ends with a consensus on war, and for one side it's often born out.
Well, I would say war is a consequence of the human proclivity to band together in a group and then demonize an out group. Survival ends up being a mutual illusion, because the reality is that there is enough for all.
Enough... resources?
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