C-Mag wrote:
This is the funny thing about US food commodities trade. When the trade goes up, food costs go up for Americans as well. This move will improve the bottom line for the US economy, but as I stated from the get go. Lower income Americans are going to be further pinched.
I don't know what to say.
I love beef. I can't afford to eat the quality of beef I want by buying it from a retailer. So, I've positioned myself to raise my own, butcher and package my own. I realize most people won't be able to do that.
It will not help us. Food prices have been rising much too fast in recent decades. The last thing we need is higher meat prices in this country with people struggling from check to check.
I get it. You go to the grocery store, buy two small plastic bags and it's $50-75. That's why I make the moves I do. The global economy does not give a shit about you or me.
I'm very interested in this, actually... And this should probably go in that Self-Reliance thread we had going.
How possible is it to raise cattle 'organically' these days? Can modern breeds do without the heavy antibiotic/hormone regimens that feed lots use?
How cheap could you get your raising process down to - just open grass lot, and somewhere covered to sleep?
It will not help us. Food prices have been rising much too fast in recent decades. The last thing we need is higher meat prices in this country with people struggling from check to check.
I get it. You go to the grocery store, buy two small plastic bags and it's $50-75. That's why I make the moves I do. The global economy does not give a shit about you or me.
I'm very interested in this, actually... And this should probably go in that Self-Reliance thread we had going.
How possible is it to raise cattle 'organically' these days? Can modern breeds do without the heavy antibiotic/hormone regimens that feed lots use?
How cheap could you get your raising process down to - just open grass lot, and somewhere covered to sleep?
If you have land, it's actually very doable. Lots of people do it around where I live. You don't have to do much but ensure they have enough grass to graze one (and probably buy feed in the winter, though I am unsure if that's even necessary for most places). You might need to pay for a vet to check on them once a year or so. When it's time to butcher them, there are people that will come and take them for that, and will pay you for the meat in addition to what you keep that you are willing to give up.
For the purposes of self-reliance.. learning to butcher a cow would not be fun. But if you are hungry enough, that won't matter one bit.
Speaker to Animals wrote:Yeah, that's really putting Americans first. WTF.
This is the funny thing about US food commodities trade. When the trade goes up, food costs go up for Americans as well. This move will improve the bottom line for the US economy, but as I stated from the get go. Lower income Americans are going to be further pinched.
I don't know what to say.
I love beef. I can't afford to eat the quality of beef I want by buying it from a retailer. So, I've positioned myself to raise my own, butcher and package my own. I realize most people won't be able to do that.
$900 a year for me, and I get 50 lbs a month... as well as a bunch of farm raised seasonal fruits and veggies. Supporting local farmers, and getting top grade meat at the same time. I can't bitch.
Speaker to Animals wrote:Yeah, that's really putting Americans first. WTF.
This is the funny thing about US food commodities trade. When the trade goes up, food costs go up for Americans as well. This move will improve the bottom line for the US economy, but as I stated from the get go. Lower income Americans are going to be further pinched.
I don't know what to say.
I love beef. I can't afford to eat the quality of beef I want by buying it from a retailer. So, I've positioned myself to raise my own, butcher and package my own. I realize most people won't be able to do that.
$900 a year for me, and I get 50 lbs a month... as well as a bunch of farm raised seasonal fruits and veggies. Supporting local farmers, and getting top grade meat at the same time. I can't bitch.
Not sure what this means.. You're spending or receiving $900/yr, and for what exactly?
C-Mag wrote:
This is the funny thing about US food commodities trade. When the trade goes up, food costs go up for Americans as well. This move will improve the bottom line for the US economy, but as I stated from the get go. Lower income Americans are going to be further pinched.
I don't know what to say.
I love beef. I can't afford to eat the quality of beef I want by buying it from a retailer. So, I've positioned myself to raise my own, butcher and package my own. I realize most people won't be able to do that.
$900 a year for me, and I get 50 lbs a month... as well as a bunch of farm raised seasonal fruits and veggies. Supporting local farmers, and getting top grade meat at the same time. I can't bitch.
Not sure what this means.. You're spending or receiving $900/yr, and for what exactly?
50lbs a month of fruit, veggies and meat... (more veggies than meat) but I support local.
Speaker to Animals wrote:I don't think I want to know how you are getting scammed this time.
That's $75 a month for Fruits, veggies, and meat... for a month... for 50 lbs, that comes out to be $1.50 a lb... and out of what I've seen, I'm not being scammed at all.
Speaker to Animals wrote:I don't think I want to know how you are getting scammed this time.
That's $75 a month for Fruits, veggies, and meat... for a month... for 50 lbs, that comes out to be $1.50 a lb... and out of what I've seen, I'm not being scammed at all.
You are mixing all kinds of different things together and clumping it as "by the pound". I can tell you were scammed already.
