The Mess

[Smitty-48]

My memory of your previous statement was that the socialists weren't prepared to parley and that was your carte blanch to evterminate at will. I begining to recognise a pattern here.

If parley cannot reconcile our differences, if the left refuses to concede in parley when outvoted in good faith, and as a result resorts to insurgency in bad faith, that puts us on a trajectory to war by default and definition, a political war at first, but ultimately, if no resolution can be achieved therein, then by its very nature, war will escalate over time, if that trajectory is not altered, all war becomes war of annihilation in the end.

It's not me that is making this happen, I merely lay out the terms of reference.

[Montegriffo]

Your bullshit is exquisite prose as ever but it is as unpolishable as any other turd. No offence.

[Smitty-48]

For the longest time, the left has not upheld nor defended Parliamentary Supremacy, only we on the conservative right have defended Her Majesty and Parliamentary Supremacy therein, we seek to win elections by votes, but when we do, the left does not concede in good faith, all voting down is taken by the left as licence to go to the streets in an insurgency, they invoke their ostensible moral purity as their mandate to waylay the will of parley.

That, is a recipe for a war, a casus belli if there ever was one.

[Montegriffo]

Latin now, I am out of my depth.
I shall concede with good grace as it is 7am in her Majesty's homeland and I must get to bed before the crowing of the rooks gets any louder.

[Smitty-48]

You know what you're seeing now with the so called "deplorables"? That's the right beginning to adopt the strategy of the left, because what the liberals do on the left is act as a stalking horse, for the radical left who they use as their proxies in the streets when the liberals fail to get the votes, so now the conservative right has begun to respond in kind, by making common cause with the radical right in the same way, those are the initial skirmishes of the warfighting that I speak of, one party has held to parley, the other has not, so now the right is being dragged into the streets, the "deplorables" are being unleashed on the left, eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.

[TheReal_ND]

Yeah well I bumped the Trump thread. Guess it's about time I get some sleep. Some of us have to go to work to make America great again tmrw.

And some of those deplorables are pouring over Saul Alinsky rules right now yes.

https://atlanticcenturion.wordpress.com ... -radicals/

Rules for Radicals is [in]famous for its purported influence, and that of author (((Saul Alinsky))), among liberal and left-wing ideologues and politicians in the United States, including Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. The political bent of this classic but reviled work by a community organizer from Chicago is shown on the very first page of the introduction by referencing “Joe McCarthy’s holocaust.” [It should be noted of course that declassified documents have revealed Senator McCarthy was pretty much always right about who was a bolshevik, but I digress].

Baby steps and shiet but the left is really propelling them much further than they could have hoped to achieve on their own.

[Montegriffo]

Well I take no part in the battle between left and right as I cling firmly to my self definition as a Liberal pragmatic eco-mentalist.
Last time I took to the streets was to protest apartheid 32 years ago. I wasn't even at the battle of Trafalgar square.

[TheReal_ND]

Figures. Fat lot of good that did for SA. Let alone Zimbabwe.

[Smitty-48]

Well you're certainly starting to have things go your way, nukedog, because the self imposed prohibition by the right, on making common cause with the domestic radical right, in place since the end of the Second World War, has indeed begun to break down.

[TheReal_ND]

It should be that way. You shouldn't punch to the right. That's something the left had known since their inception. The problem with the right is that they are fighting ideological differences amongst themselves, which is fine in normal circumstances but when you are being actively replaced demographically it's time to wake the fuck up and smell the coffee.