THE ERA OF TRUMP

[SuburbanFarmer]

Trump made a major error in going after Thomas Massie. It seems to indicate that he still thinks this is all about him personally, rather than a wider movement.

What happens next if a leader believes that he’s more loved than he is, and doesn’t understand why he’s in power?

Hopefully someone in the White House is checking him on this right now. Else we could be back in the pressure cooker real quick.

[C-Mag]

Agreed

[Montegriffo]

Can you find any instance in natural history in which a naturally occurring pathogen kills even 50% of a species?
Let alone a magical one that jumps across species all over the place?

Can you find any cases of mass die-offs from bird flu? Not counting the euthanasia campaigns of course.

Can you find me a single human death from ‘bird flu’?

https://africageographic.com/stories/un ... inderpest/
Rinderpest is responsible for measles in humans.

The rinderpest outbreak of the late 19th century was one of the most devastating plagues in African history – it killed 90% of Southern and East Africa’s cattle and the subsequent starvation killed as many people as the Black Death. It wiped out a third of Ethiopia’s population. Its effect on the continent’s wildlife was equally extreme, and the ramifications are still felt well into the 21st century.

https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildl ... za-updates

First, Great Skuas began dying across islands in Scotland in summer 2021. Then in winter 2021/22 on the Solway Firth, bird flu killed a third of the Svalbard breeding population of Barnacle Geese – at least 13,200 birds. In winter 2022/23, up to 5,000 Greenland Barnacle Geese died on Islay, as well as hundreds of ducks, swans, gulls and other geese species. Birds of prey such as Peregrine Falcon, Hen Harrier, Buzzard, White-tailed Eagle and Golden Eagle have also been testing positive.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqx ... ave%20died.

Almost all cases of infection in people have been associated with close contact to infected dead or live birds, or contaminated environments.

Since 2003, the World Health Organization (WHO) has counted, external 954 confirmed human cases of bird flu, of which about half have died.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_smallpox
Smallpox was a zoonotic disease, passed from cattle to humans.

During the 18th century, the disease killed an estimated 400,000 Europeans each year, including five reigning monarchs, and was responsible for a third of all blindness.[4] Between 20 and 60% of all those infected—and over 80% of infected children—died from the disease.[5]

During the 20th century, it is estimated that smallpox was responsible for 300–500 million deaths.[6][7][8] In the early 1950s, an estimated 50 million cases of smallpox occurred in the world each year.[9] As recently as 1967, the World Health Organization estimated that 15 million people contracted the disease and that two million died in that year.[9] After successful vaccination campaigns throughout the 19th and 20th centuries, the WHO certified the global eradication of smallpox in May 1980.

Measles isn’t even a serious disease. It’s old school chicken pox. Get it and move on.

Smallpox was a bad thing. And a huge number of deaths are attributed to insane doses of aspirin administered by physicians at the time.

Bird flu is a bummer for some wild birds. And it’s already burning out. No humans have gotten worse than pinkeye symptoms from it.

The deadlier a virus is, the less spreadable. Like Ebola, it burns through hosts too quickly. I asked for 50% mortality, you gave me 33% - which is about as bad as it gets in a pandemic.

By comparison, Covid was .001%.

Since 2003, the World Health Organization (WHO) has counted, external 954 confirmed human cases of bird flu, of which about half have died.

Half = 50%

I hate to do this to you buddy but I'm going to have to set DBTrek on you.

[SuburbanFarmer]

https://africageographic.com/stories/un ... inderpest/
Rinderpest is responsible for measles in humans.


https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildl ... za-updates


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqx ... ave%20died.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_smallpox
Smallpox was a zoonotic disease, passed from cattle to humans.

Measles isn’t even a serious disease. It’s old school chicken pox. Get it and move on.

Smallpox was a bad thing. And a huge number of deaths are attributed to insane doses of aspirin administered by physicians at the time.

Bird flu is a bummer for some wild birds. And it’s already burning out. No humans have gotten worse than pinkeye symptoms from it.

The deadlier a virus is, the less spreadable. Like Ebola, it burns through hosts too quickly. I asked for 50% mortality, you gave me 33% - which is about as bad as it gets in a pandemic.

By comparison, Covid was .001%.

Since 2003, the World Health Organization (WHO) has counted, external 954 confirmed human cases of bird flu, of which about half have died.

Half = 50%

I hate to do this to you buddy but I'm going to have to set DBTrek on you.

Did you just quote the WHO at me in a serious conversation? You’re not even trolling? Holy hell dude.

How many boosters are we up to for that 90% fatal- I mean non fatal, naturally occurring super virus that came from a pangolin fucking a tuna in China?

I miss DB. Smart dude with attitude.

[Montegriffo]

https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/03/ ... les-death/

“Don’t do the shots,” my other 4 kids were fine

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

The parents of an unvaccinated 6-year-old girl who died of measles in Texas last month sat down for an interview with Children's Health Defense (CHD), the rabid anti-vaccine organization founded and run until recently by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who is now US health secretary under the Trump administration.

The child's vaccine-preventable death marked the first measles fatality in the US in a decade. It's a tragedy that stands as a dark reminder of the dangers of the disease—one of the most infectious known to humankind—and the importance of the lifesaving vaccinations. But, in the interview, CHD wielded the loss of the young child as a means to downplay the deadly disease, attack the Measles, Mumps, and Rubella vaccine, tout unproven treatments, and spread misinformation.

[Martin Hash]

A scaremonger is among us.

[SuburbanFarmer]

https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/03/ ... les-death/

“Don’t do the shots,” my other 4 kids were fine

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

The parents of an unvaccinated 6-year-old girl who died of measles in Texas last month sat down for an interview with Children's Health Defense (CHD), the rabid anti-vaccine organization founded and run until recently by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who is now US health secretary under the Trump administration.

The child's vaccine-preventable death marked the first measles fatality in the US in a decade. It's a tragedy that stands as a dark reminder of the dangers of the disease—one of the most infectious known to humankind—and the importance of the lifesaving vaccinations. But, in the interview, CHD wielded the loss of the young child as a means to downplay the deadly disease, attack the Measles, Mumps, and Rubella vaccine, tout unproven treatments, and spread misinformation.

First off, ars technica is a goofy lib rag. I use them for tech headlines once in a while.

Second, the kid died of pneumonia, not measles. Measles has a fatality rate of .03% unless you’re already half dead.

[Montegriffo]

https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/03/ ... les-death/

“Don’t do the shots,” my other 4 kids were fine

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

The parents of an unvaccinated 6-year-old girl who died of measles in Texas last month sat down for an interview with Children's Health Defense (CHD), the rabid anti-vaccine organization founded and run until recently by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who is now US health secretary under the Trump administration.

The child's vaccine-preventable death marked the first measles fatality in the US in a decade. It's a tragedy that stands as a dark reminder of the dangers of the disease—one of the most infectious known to humankind—and the importance of the lifesaving vaccinations. But, in the interview, CHD wielded the loss of the young child as a means to downplay the deadly disease, attack the Measles, Mumps, and Rubella vaccine, tout unproven treatments, and spread misinformation.

First off, ars technica is a goofy lib rag. I use them for tech headlines once in a while.

Second, the kid died of pneumonia, not measles. Measles has a fatality rate of .03% unless you’re already half dead.

Yeah, most measles deaths are caused by pneumonia.
Pneumonia caused by measles.

Drunk drivers die by hitting walls.
It's the drinking and driving that kills them though, not the walls.

[Martin Hash]

Drunk drivers die by hitting walls.
It's the drinking and driving that kills them though, not the walls.

I agree with that argument: guns don’t kill people either.

[SuburbanFarmer]

https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/03/ ... les-death/
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

First off, ars technica is a goofy lib rag. I use them for tech headlines once in a while.

Second, the kid died of pneumonia, not measles. Measles has a fatality rate of .03% unless you’re already half dead.

Yeah, most measles deaths are caused by pneumonia.
Pneumonia caused by measles.

Drunk drivers die by hitting walls.
It's the drinking and driving that kills them though, not the walls.

Tell your kids to get their chicken pox shots. Highly dangerous disease there.

And don’t forget the flu every year - it kills 10s of thousands.

And don’t go outside, or you’ll die of cancer. Don’t talk to your friends you might get a cold. You could DIE!!