Public School Education System Thread

[The Conservative]

Uh Oh, someone is not playing by woke rules

Whenever I interview people I have HR remove all indicators of race, gender, and where they are from in the resume.

When I talk to them is when I first get an idea of their ability. Of not only doing the job but also speaking English if they get past the first round with me.

[C-Mag]

St Helens School near Marty put a known pedophile in the school and kept him in the school.

https://www.opb.org/article/2024/11/15/ ... e-arrests/

St. Helens Acting Police Chief Joseph Hogue said Friday that his department subpoenaed the district in October and found historical reports made by students detailing allegations that the district had not previously disclosed. A police investigation led to the arrests this week of choir teacher Eric Stearns and recently retired math teacher Mark Collins, who are charged with sexual abuse of multiple students from 2015 through last year.

The school district never informed law enforcement or state officials about the reports of sexual abuse, which is required by state law

Any local info on this Marty ?

[Martin Hash]

I live @ Ground Zero.; if it wasn’t for you guys, I’d have no contact with reality.

[GloryofGreece]

Book marking this. I'll write up an essay that addresses most of the issues with public education and what to do about it in a couple weeks. I have a masters in education lol I know a joke. But I also have a degree in History. Plus I've taught in all sorts of schools.

[GloryofGreece]

There’s a lot of problems with the education system—something that’s been a point of discussion for a long time. If you look at far-right forums, chat rooms, podcasts, or YouTube channels, you’ll notice this isn’t a new critique. People have been saying public schools are failing for our entire lives. But what’s often overlooked is that criticism of the public school system didn’t originate with these groups. In fact, it has been questioned from the very beginning by people across the political spectrum, including many you’d associate with left-leaning or progressive ideals.

Take, for example, the Montessori method or the Reggio Emilia approach—both developed as alternatives to mainstream education. In the 1960s, you had significant critiques coming from varied ideological perspectives. There was the unschooling movement, which I’ll add a reference to later when I track it down—it’s tied to a book from that era. Around the same time, there were conservative Christian critiques, often from Calvinist or reactionary perspectives, warning about the spiritual and cultural dangers of public education.

What’s important to understand is that these critiques weren’t dominated by one side. While today we might associate opposition to public schools with fundamentalist Christians or the homeschooling movement—which really gained traction in the 1980s—there were plenty of voices criticizing the system decades earlier. This included far-left thinkers, quasi-Marxists, libertarians, utopians, and even hippie communes. These groups saw public education as a tool of conformity and control, reinforcing systems of inequality and stifling creativity.

So, when we talk about the shortcomings of public schools today, it’s worth remembering this broader historical context. Criticism isn’t new, and it has always come from diverse and sometimes surprising corners.

[GloryofGreece]

All kinds of people are deeply concerned about the downfall of the public education system, but once you move past ideas of civic nationalism, you realize the problem runs deeper. The nation-state, as we’ve known it, is crumbling. Geopolitically, its relevance is diminishing, and in North America, the public school curriculum reflects this decline. Civics and personal finance are good examples.

In my state, we have a civics class and a personal finance class, and they’re taught at about the right age. These subjects have been debated endlessly—people have complained for decades about the lack of civics and finance in schools. But here’s the thing: the public school system’s problems don’t boil down to whether or not we teach some civics or personal finance. The real issue is that even if you had a civic-minded, responsible citizenry, you still wouldn’t have a functioning community.

This lack of real community is a deeper problem, and it’s been lamented for generations. Most people who live in anything resembling a true community in North America today are far-right Christians—or, if not explicitly political, they’re held together by something, and that something is usually religion. I’m not judging whether that’s good or bad; it’s just a fact. But it raises a tough question: can you have a functioning school system without a functioning community?

Most critiques of society over the past two generations have come from the left. Thinkers trained in critical theory talk about alienation, atomization, and the liquefying of modernity—how everything solid seems to dissolve into something fragmented, fleeting, or hyper-real. Without getting too bogged down in the academic jargon, let’s just say this: if you’re living in 2024 and don’t have a close-knit family or friend group, you’re likely feeling atomized.

Consider this: about 40% of Americans live alone. They think they’re choosing to be alone, but that “choice” is often shaped by deterministic factors—structural realities or informed and misinformed decisions they’ve made along the way. That number includes people who only have short-term relationships (less than six months), as well as those who can’t find partners or don’t want to try. Forty percent. That’s a staggering figure, and it should terrify everyone.

And kids are no different. They’re growing up in the same fractured environment, disconnected from meaningful communities or stable support systems. The implications for education, society, and human well-being are incapable.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Not sure how that 40% stat came about… seems pretty impossible.

But I’d counter that we’re seeing the fallout from the collapse of industrialized society. Essentially, we tried to industrialize every human process, from school to nutrition, to culture. We reached a peak efficiency somewhere around the 50s and kept right on rolling. Now it’s all falling apart, just like any other over-centralized process.

The answer in times like these is to buckle down and DIY. New communities are forming, people are fleeing the cities, and producing or sourcing local food. Homeschool is the biggest it’s been since the Industrial Revolution.

Gen X is all about building anew and watching it all burn. We’re recreating society on a local level, and it will be a long long time before we trust any society-wide institutions.

[Martin Hash]

Men sat on their asses until FMWs controlled every societal institution.

[GloryofGreece]

They need to ban under 18 usage of any and all social media. It needs to be a law and you should have to verify your age to have a social media account. It's a heavily psychologically conditioning phenomena. Different than an addiction but as deadly and damaging.

[SuburbanFarmer]

They need to ban under 18 usage of any and all social media. It needs to be a law and you should have to verify your age to have a social media account. It's a heavily psychologically conditioning phenomena. Different than an addiction but as deadly and damaging.

Or what if… instead of more idiotic laws that are backed by violence, we just keep our kids off social media.