Israel/Palestine Conflict 2023

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Re: Israel/Palestine Conflict 2023

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:24 am

Assuming you already know the term “emergent order,” things too difficult to be deterministic, meaning unpredictable, that produce the outcome of virtually everything complicated; this particular conflict strikes me as a result of emergent order (EO). That’s my opinion; the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is EO. I don’t have to be on a side.
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Re: Israel/Palestine Conflict 2023

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:35 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:24 am
Assuming you already know the term “emergent order,” things too difficult to be deterministic, meaning unpredictable, that produce the outcome of virtually everything complicated; this particular conflict strikes me as a result of emergent order (EO). That’s my opinion; the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is EO. I don’t have to be on a side.
Yeah I don’t have a side, but it’s pretty amazing to watch the fallout. Lindsey Graham went full maniacal warlord yesterday, and the UK just banned Palestinian flags.

Meanwhile, BLM is ‘standing with Palestine’ on Twitter, and posting memes with paragliders.

I just don’t believe for a second that the Israeli wall was breached for hours with no response from the IDF. Either a major state actor took everything down, or…. You know.
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Re: Israel/Palestine Conflict 2023

Post by Xenophon » Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:36 am

Reports of paragliders carrying militants into Northern Israel. Hoo boy. Hezbollah, I'm guessing.

NVM. Probably just Hamas.

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Re: Israel/Palestine Conflict 2023

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:53 am

There’s some amount of Fake News to justify the U.S. going to war with Syria & Iran, but I can’t suss it out?
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Re: Israel/Palestine Conflict 2023

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:30 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:53 am
There’s some amount of Fake News to justify the U.S. going to war with Syria & Iran, but I can’t suss it out?
Because they want to I guess. No reasons needed.
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Re: Israel/Palestine Conflict 2023

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:54 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:30 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:53 am
There’s some amount of Fake News to justify the U.S. going to war with Syria & Iran, but I can’t suss it out?
Because they want to I guess. No reasons needed.
I mean that I understand they WANT to go to war with Syria & Iran, and they're using a bunch of stories to justify it, but I can't tell if they're all propaganda?
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Re: Israel/Palestine Conflict 2023

Post by Xenophon » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:48 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:54 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:30 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:53 am
There’s some amount of Fake News to justify the U.S. going to war with Syria & Iran, but I can’t suss it out?
Because they want to I guess. No reasons needed.
I mean that I understand they WANT to go to war with Syria & Iran, and they're using a bunch of stories to justify it, but I can't tell if they're all propaganda?
The baby beheading thing has yet to be confirmed.

I really can't see a lot of false flag propaganda being thrown around, mostly because if Hamas is going to kill a bunch of people, they're going to want to film themselves desecrating the corpses or other shenanigans. The average IQ in the Gaza Strip is like 60-80. The Israeli's don't need to make stuff up.

They might very well be behind the whole debacle, but I don't see a lot of fabricated nonsense like you saw with Ukraine.

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Re: Israel/Palestine Conflict 2023

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:38 pm

The Hamas stories are 1 thing, justifying going to war with Syria & Iran are another. (I know they’re trying to conflate the two.)
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Re: Israel/Palestine Conflict 2023

Post by kybkh » Wed Oct 11, 2023 2:20 pm

Anyone know why the fuck we care about Israel so much?
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Re: Israel/Palestine Conflict 2023

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Oct 11, 2023 2:36 pm

kybkh wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 2:20 pm
Anyone know why the fuck we care about Israel so much?
That’s obviously a rhetorical question. What’s unclear is why we care about Ukraine so much?
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