Meanwhile in Ukraine

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Haumana » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:58 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:49 am
DoD released a video of the incident. Looks pretty suspect, but ok. Fuel dumping on it.

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/watc ... aper-drone
You can see around the :40 second mark one of the props becomes bent like a j hook.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:08 am

A prop at speed hitting liquid would do that. There didn’t have to be physical contact.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Haumana » Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:09 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:08 am
A prop at speed hitting liquid would do that. There didn’t have to be physical contact.
Fair enough.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:27 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:08 am
A prop at speed hitting liquid would do that. There didn’t have to be physical contact.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:29 am

Russia is at war with Kiev
The USA is at war against Europe

That's what's happening
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Haumana » Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:57 am

C-Mag wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:29 am
Russia is at war with Kiev
The USA is at war against Europe

That's what's happening
Yup.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:24 pm

The West, indoctrinated by the Western way of war, completely misunderstands the Russian grand strategy in Ukraine. In the West we have been conditioned to shock and awe. Prepare the battlefield with massive air power, cut off power, and key transport, then big arrow offensives moving very rapidly.

Russia appears to be held at a standstill by Ukraine. The west says Ukraine is winning because Russia is not making big advances. But I believe the entire Russian strategy, at least currently, is to simply destroy the Ukrainian military. The Russians seem quite happy to let Ukraine keep sending troops to places like Bakhmut and killing them off man by man with their concentrated superiority in artillery, supported by infantry.

Great interview with an Australian Merc in Ukraine, he gives the true story of what's happening


BLUF: Ukraine is generally losing this war, Russia is winning the attrition battle, Wagner is near peer to ay Western Force.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by The Conservative » Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:11 am

C-Mag wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:24 pm
The West, indoctrinated by the Western way of war, completely misunderstands the Russian grand strategy in Ukraine. In the West we have been conditioned to shock and awe. Prepare the battlefield with massive air power, cut off power, and key transport, then big arrow offensives moving very rapidly.

Russia appears to be held at a standstill by Ukraine. The west says Ukraine is winning because Russia is not making big advances. But I believe the entire Russian strategy, at least currently, is to simply destroy the Ukrainian military. The Russians seem quite happy to let Ukraine keep sending troops to places like Bakhmut and killing them off man by man with their concentrated superiority in artillery, supported by infantry.

Great interview with an Australian Merc in Ukraine, he gives the true story of what's happening


BLUF: Ukraine is generally losing this war, Russia is winning the attrition battle, Wagner is near peer to ay Western Force.
That may be temporary. With current events, but honestly, if Ukraine is holding Russia back, is Russia in trouble?
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:38 am

Russia seems to be stronger than it's ever been. They're fighting NATO and winning decidedly.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:12 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:38 am
Russia seems to be stronger than it's ever been. They're fighting NATO and winning decidedly.
That's my assessment as well.
NATO and all the Ukrainiots are happy to watch a couple generations of Ukrainians die on the altar of Globohomo feminism, but won't risk any more than money and machinery, and the enthusiasm for that is waning.

If you watch that video the Merc talks about how badly corruption in Ukraine is hurting them. No accountability on Western aid, the politicians of Kiev and Lviv keep all the best equipment, the money, all of it for themselves, huge blackmarket problems and the good equipment is not getting to the front. On the other side, Wagner has peer equipment and tech, and in some cases superior battlefield tech to the west.
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