Meanwhile in Ukraine

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:29 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:18 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:36 am
Ukraine is just about to fall but I haven't seen the MSM preparing the NPCs. Are they just going to ignore it?
The entire west is telling their citizens to leave Russia this week. If I had to guess, they’re prepping for a full war.
With what? Colonel MacGregor says that NATO is years away from being able to confront Russia except at sea and that would mean subs launching nukes.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by The Conservative » Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:01 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:29 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:18 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:36 am
Ukraine is just about to fall but I haven't seen the MSM preparing the NPCs. Are they just going to ignore it?
The entire west is telling their citizens to leave Russia this week. If I had to guess, they’re prepping for a full war.
With what? Colonel MacGregor says that NATO is years away from being able to confront Russia except at sea and that would mean subs launching nukes.
That is because they don't trust the US under Biden to be able to support them... It will take a president with balls and brains to be able to actually do that... which as we have found out, Biden has neither.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:49 pm

The US based Mercenary unit, the Mozart Group has dissolved.

Which is curious. Reports say it was due to being poorly run, bad financials, etc. Others say because the former Marine officer running it, spilled the beans about Ukraine war crimes when drunk on a podcast.

Hard saying, could be other factors, a combination of factors, but anyone that doesn't get this is a USA backed merc company is lying to themselves.

So why did the US pull the plug ?
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by The Conservative » Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:33 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:49 pm
The US based Mercenary unit, the Mozart Group has dissolved.

Which is curious. Reports say it was due to being poorly run, bad financials, etc. Others say because the former Marine officer running it, spilled the beans about Ukraine war crimes when drunk on a podcast.

Hard saying, could be other factors, a combination of factors, but anyone that doesn't get this is a USA backed merc company is lying to themselves.

So why did the US pull the plug ?
Would you go to war for this President or VP?
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:11 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:33 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:49 pm
The US based Mercenary unit, the Mozart Group has dissolved.

Which is curious. Reports say it was due to being poorly run, bad financials, etc. Others say because the former Marine officer running it, spilled the beans about Ukraine war crimes when drunk on a podcast.

Hard saying, could be other factors, a combination of factors, but anyone that doesn't get this is a USA backed merc company is lying to themselves.

So why did the US pull the plug ?
Would you go to war for this President or VP?
Nobody would. But they don’t seem to realize that.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:15 pm

Milley just said “Russia already lost.”

Jesus fukking christ: they’re going to declare victory and go home.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by The Conservative » Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:39 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:15 pm
Milley just said “Russia already lost.”

Jesus fukking christ: they’re going to declare victory and go home.
Just like Afghanistan.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:49 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:39 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:15 pm
Milley just said “Russia already lost.”

Jesus fukking christ: they’re going to declare victory and go home.
Just like Afghanistan.
Exactly. The elites are never wrong.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:21 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:15 pm
Milley just said “Russia already lost.”

Jesus fukking christ: they’re going to declare victory and go home.
:lol:
Same thought I had. Kinda been signalling this for the last few months.

This entire mess could destroy NATO. Lots of chaos under the overt grand standing about NATO unity.
Look at the factors:
1. US and Norway being outed as having destroyed Nordstream. Which damages other NATO states.
2. Turkey - US loss of cooperation, this one is deep.
- Terrorist bombing last Fall that Turkey accused the US of being involved.
- Turkey providing support to Russia in the Ukraine War
- Turkey, Syria and Romania suspect the earthquake was caused by a US Geoweapon. Note, the Quake
had no Epicenter.
- Turkey is blocking Sweden from joining NATO
3. Samantha Power is in Hungary - presumably to lay the ground work for a color revolution to get rid of Orban, a thorn in the side of the US and EU
4. The lingering deaths and injuries from the COVID jab, which the US led.
5. The Ukraine War has bled NATO of weapon reserves and cash, that can't go on forever.

The Nordstream destruction itself is enough to destroy the alliance. And the direct impacts are hurting citizens of Europe. Except the UK and Norway which are profiting off the suffering.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:23 am

Heck we don't even have unity in the US on Ukraine.
There are competing factions on Ukraine in Washington DC. One faction is will to go all the way, even nukes, the other more cautious. Both are reckless as hell and agreed enough to set up and make this mess happen.

Look at the Gen Milley statement, it was mixed as hell. Declare Victory, but acknowledge the fight goes on and we will continue to supply Ukraine. In my best estimation, this is Milley speaking for the Pentagon wing in DC, saying, Yeah we'll send weapons, but direct US troops in a kinetic war in Russia off the table.
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