Beyond Woke

[The Conservative]

Prediction.

Once the commie cabal gets their way and the populace is forced to move to electric vehicles we will encounter electricity shortages and price hikes worse than what we see with gas now. When we all turn to our EV loving commies that helped force this upon us with their "EV is the future!" they will blame BIG ENERGY as the culprit and take ZERO blame for the consequences.

The EV talk gets louder with each gas price hike. Yet these people have ZERO idea what would happen if we all decided to go that route right now. There is no infrastructure to handle it. CA already can barely keep their lights on now, just wait until summer comes with the AC needs. We'd be trading high gas prices for high electric prices AND not enough supply. Supply that would affect not just vehicles but pretty much everything given how much of lives are tied to electricity.

The saving grace of solar is it can be decentralized. You can install some panels on your house and avoid all those costs.

Solar in theory can be decentralized, but when the largest producer of solar cells is your enemy, it won't matter what you think, you ain't going to get it for free.

[C-Mag]

Instead of Ukraine, your solar Lend-Lease idea makes total sense. Unfortunately, Dems don’t own houses so would be against it. Maybe a choice between school loan forgiveness and personal energy independence?

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I'm sure for $40B we could make a few communities completely energy independent, then your electric vehicle makes sense

[PartyOf5]

Instead of Ukraine, your solar Lend-Lease idea makes total sense. Unfortunately, Dems don’t own houses so would be against it. Maybe a choice between school loan forgiveness and personal energy independence?

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I'm sure for $40B we could make a few communities completely energy independent, then your electric vehicle makes sense

Even then EVs wouldn't make sense on a large scale. The infrastructure doesn't exist. Having a charging station at home solves only a small part of one problem, but mass EVs create other problems.

America's leaders intentionally fucked us all. They want us all to be peasants, and we are accelerating towards that.

Stock market is down 1,000 points today. Recession here we come. No one's even going to be able to afford an EV with what's coming.

[The Conservative]

Instead of Ukraine, your solar Lend-Lease idea makes total sense. Unfortunately, Dems don’t own houses so would be against it. Maybe a choice between school loan forgiveness and personal energy independence?

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I'm sure for $40B we could make a few communities completely energy independent, then your electric vehicle makes sense

Even then EVs wouldn't make sense on a large scale. The infrastructure doesn't exist. Having a charging station at home solves only a small part of one problem, but mass EVs create other problems.

America's leaders intentionally fucked us all. They want us all to be peasants, and we are accelerating towards that.

Stock market is down 1,000 points today. Recession here we come. No one's even going to be able to afford an EV with what's coming.

Well, if you believe what they are saying, by summer we are going to get $10.00/gal gas.

[Zlaxer]

Instead of Ukraine, your solar Lend-Lease idea makes total sense. Unfortunately, Dems don’t own houses so would be against it. Maybe a choice between school loan forgiveness and personal energy independence?

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I'm sure for $40B we could make a few communities completely energy independent, then your electric vehicle makes sense

Even then EVs wouldn't make sense on a large scale. The infrastructure doesn't exist. Having a charging station at home solves only a small part of one problem, but mass EVs create other problems.

America's leaders intentionally fucked us all. They want us all to be peasants, and we are accelerating towards that.

Stock market is down 1,000 points today. Recession here we come. No one's even going to be able to afford an EV with what's coming.

Market still has a way to drop - boomers goona get fucked in the poophole - goona be broke, too old to work, government too broke for handouts, and many don’t have kids - suck it grasshoppers!

[TheOneX]

Instead of Ukraine, your solar Lend-Lease idea makes total sense. Unfortunately, Dems don’t own houses so would be against it. Maybe a choice between school loan forgiveness and personal energy independence?

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I'm sure for $40B we could make a few communities completely energy independent, then your electric vehicle makes sense

Even then EVs wouldn't make sense on a large scale. The infrastructure doesn't exist. Having a charging station at home solves only a small part of one problem, but mass EVs create other problems.

America's leaders intentionally fucked us all. They want us all to be peasants, and we are accelerating towards that.

Stock market is down 1,000 points today. Recession here we come. No one's even going to be able to afford an EV with what's coming.

The one thing holding back EVs and local energy storage is the materials used for lithium batteries. Once they figure out an alternative using more abundant materials EVs and local energy storage won't have any limitations. There has been some good progress on that, and Tesla has already eliminated one of those materials from their batteries this year.

[PartyOf5]

The one thing holding back EVs and local energy storage is the materials used for lithium batteries. Once they figure out an alternative using more abundant materials EVs and local energy storage won't have any limitations. There has been some good progress on that, and Tesla has already eliminated one of those materials from their batteries this year.

There's more than 1 thing holding back EVs. Infrastructure is the biggest. CA already has electrical grid issues during the summer. Add millions of EVs needing a daily charge and see what happens. Also, where are all the stations to charge if you are not at home? There are some, but not close to enough to support a surge in EV use.

All of that additional infrastructure comes at a cost. I have zero faith that will be done and paid for efficiently and effectively.

You say once they figure out an alternative to lithium there won't be any limitations. When will that be? How long before we have that widely available? We are staring down $10 gas by the end of summer. We have a New World Order determined to force everyone to EVs, ready or not. This is going to be a disastrously painful transition if we continue on the current path.

[TheOneX]

The one thing holding back EVs and local energy storage is the materials used for lithium batteries. Once they figure out an alternative using more abundant materials EVs and local energy storage won't have any limitations. There has been some good progress on that, and Tesla has already eliminated one of those materials from their batteries this year.

There's more than 1 thing holding back EVs. Infrastructure is the biggest. CA already has electrical grid issues during the summer. Add millions of EVs needing a daily charge and see what happens. Also, where are all the stations to charge if you are not at home? There are some, but not close to enough to support a surge in EV use.

All of that additional infrastructure comes at a cost. I have zero faith that will be done and paid for efficiently and effectively.

You say once they figure out an alternative to lithium there won't be any limitations. When will that be? How long before we have that widely available? We are staring down $10 gas by the end of summer. We have a New World Order determined to force everyone to EVs, ready or not. This is going to be a disastrously painful transition if we continue on the current path.

What have we done in the past when a new technology drastically increased the amount of electricity used? Refrigerators, A/C, dryers, etc. all drastically increased the demand on the grid, the grid expanded and adapted. As more people come to the US the grid expanded and adapted. This isn't some unique circumstance. Really, if anything, the nature of these cars being battery based will make it easier for the grid to handle as charging the batteries does not have to be as on demand as an A/C unit.

There is a lot of research on different kinds of batteries. It's hard to say who will be first, but progress is being made, which is the point of the Tesla example. We can't predict and exact timetable, but it is only a matter of time.

You really need to stop with this doom and gloom over EVs. It is just a bunch of uniformed fear mongering. Change happens, you don't always need to be afraid of it.

[PartyOf5]

What have we done in the past when a new technology drastically increased the amount of electricity used? Refrigerators, A/C, dryers, etc. all drastically increased the demand on the grid, the grid expanded and adapted. As more people come to the US the grid expanded and adapted. This isn't some unique circumstance. Really, if anything, the nature of these cars being battery based will make it easier for the grid to handle as charging the batteries does not have to be as on demand as an A/C unit.

There is a lot of research on different kinds of batteries. It's hard to say who will be first, but progress is being made, which is the point of the Tesla example. We can't predict and exact timetable, but it is only a matter of time.

You really need to stop with this doom and gloom over EVs. It is just a bunch of uniformed fear mongering. Change happens, you don't always need to be afraid of it.

Read what I have actually written, not the pre-recorded message you have in your head.

I'm not against change and progress. What I'm saying is that this is not happening naturally. It's being forced upon the masses by the few people in power in a way that is going to harm people much more than if it things were being done the right way.

Stop arguing against a point I'm not even making.

[SuburbanFarmer]

The one thing holding back EVs and local energy storage is the materials used for lithium batteries. Once they figure out an alternative using more abundant materials EVs and local energy storage won't have any limitations. There has been some good progress on that, and Tesla has already eliminated one of those materials from their batteries this year.

There's more than 1 thing holding back EVs. Infrastructure is the biggest. CA already has electrical grid issues during the summer. Add millions of EVs needing a daily charge and see what happens. Also, where are all the stations to charge if you are not at home? There are some, but not close to enough to support a surge in EV use.

All of that additional infrastructure comes at a cost. I have zero faith that will be done and paid for efficiently and effectively.

You say once they figure out an alternative to lithium there won't be any limitations. When will that be? How long before we have that widely available? We are staring down $10 gas by the end of summer. We have a New World Order determined to force everyone to EVs, ready or not. This is going to be a disastrously painful transition if we continue on the current path.

What have we done in the past when a new technology drastically increased the amount of electricity used? Refrigerators, A/C, dryers, etc. all drastically increased the demand on the grid, the grid expanded and adapted. As more people come to the US the grid expanded and adapted. This isn't some unique circumstance. Really, if anything, the nature of these cars being battery based will make it easier for the grid to handle as charging the batteries does not have to be as on demand as an A/C unit.

There is a lot of research on different kinds of batteries. It's hard to say who will be first, but progress is being made, which is the point of the Tesla example. We can't predict and exact timetable, but it is only a matter of time.

You really need to stop with this doom and gloom over EVs. It is just a bunch of uniformed fear mongering. Change happens, you don't always need to be afraid of it.

The issue is not the technology itself - it’s trying to ram through the acceptance barrier with massive government subsidies and mandates.