Meanwhile in Ukraine

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Sun May 01, 2022 1:32 pm

Zelensky’s Top Advisor Tells People to be “Emotionally, Organizationally and Consciously Ready” for Donbass Defeat
https://www.unz.com/aanglin/zelenskys-t ... ss-defeat/

And the US continues to take out Russian Generals.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by The Conservative » Sun May 01, 2022 9:48 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:34 am
Like I said, you want us in a war. Fuck you, mutterfukker. Go warmonger somewhere else.
He's Canadian, what does it matter to him if the US goes to war?

Honestly I think Canadians are “friendly” to Americans cause if they aren't they are afraid of what we’d do in retaliation.

But so far what I've seen here, him and Smitty are just plain dumb.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by StCapps » Mon May 02, 2022 3:09 am

The Conservative wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 9:48 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:34 am
Like I said, you want us in a war. Fuck you, mutterfukker. Go warmonger somewhere else.
He's Canadian, what does it matter to him if the US goes to war?

Honestly I think Canadians are “friendly” to Americans cause if they aren't they are afraid of what we’d do in retaliation.

But so far what I've seen here, him and Smitty are just plain dumb.
not being a Pro-Russian shill

is not warmongering

peace through strength > peace through appeasement

y'all are the one's proclaiming

Russia smart, America dumb

and you accuse me of anti-Americanism?

if anyone hates America

it's Russian apologists who scapegoat America as trying to start WWIII
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by The Conservative » Mon May 02, 2022 4:28 am

StCapps wrote:
Mon May 02, 2022 3:09 am
The Conservative wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 9:48 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:34 am
Like I said, you want us in a war. Fuck you, mutterfukker. Go warmonger somewhere else.
He's Canadian, what does it matter to him if the US goes to war?

Honestly I think Canadians are “friendly” to Americans cause if they aren't they are afraid of what we’d do in retaliation.

But so far what I've seen here, him and Smitty are just plain dumb.
not being a Pro-Russian shill

is not warmongering

peace through strength > peace through appeasement

y'all are the one's proclaiming

Russia smart, America dumb

and you accuse me of anti-Americanism?

if anyone hates America

it's Russian apologists who scapegoat America as trying to start WWIII
Yeah, I accuse you of anti-Americanism. As well as anti-logic.

You and Smitty talk big but when it comes down to it, you are just on the wrong side of history.

This war has no “good guys” Russia(USSR-Wrapper) and Ukraine are the same side of the same coin.

They both are corrupt, both guilty of a lot of the similar things. Have you ever thought that if the Democrats want to support a war, it is probably a bad idea?
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by StCapps » Mon May 02, 2022 5:36 am

The Conservative wrote:
Mon May 02, 2022 4:28 am
Have you ever thought that if the Democrats want to support a war, it is probably a bad idea?
Have you ever considered that attacking the messengers instead of the message is ad hominem nonsense?

the Democrats are not wrong about everything

just most things

I don't knee jerk oppose whatever they support

I judge each issue on the merits

identity politics is for the birds

and I don't support the right wing version of that

just because they oppose the identity politics of the left

you can oppose left identity politics

without being a right wing reactionary NPC

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I for one will not become like the enemy

just to virtue signal how much I dislike the enemy

that would be fucking stupid

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by The Conservative » Mon May 02, 2022 7:08 am

StCapps wrote:
Mon May 02, 2022 5:36 am
The Conservative wrote:
Mon May 02, 2022 4:28 am
Have you ever thought that if the Democrats want to support a war, it is probably a bad idea?
Have you ever considered that attacking the messengers instead of the message is ad hominem nonsense?

the Democrats are not wrong about everything

just most things

I don't knee jerk oppose whatever they support

I judge each issue on the merits

identity politics is for the birds

and I don't support the right wing version of that

just because they oppose the identity politics of the left

you can oppose left identity politics

without being a right wing reactionary NPC

pro tip


I for one will not become like the enemy

just to virtue signal how much I dislike the enemy

that would be fucking stupid

and I am better than that
The Democrats have been on the wrong side of history more times than they care to admit, they put the blame on others so they don't look like the failed party they really are. It is now coming apparently clear that they have failed as a party, and their entire belief system is collapsing upon itself.

You obviously have not been paying attention then. I have been at odds with quite a few people here over this entire thing. I come to the conclusions I have by not only knowing people on both sides of the fight, but also I follow and reading history.

This is not tea leaves bullshittery... If you ignore what I read, then stop responding to me. I have clarified my stance multiple times. I have said Ukraine is corrupt and doesn't deserve our support. What does though are the people caught in the middle. I also have stated that Russia is punching well above their own weight class. Short-term Russia is winning (such as this war) Long-term they are going to lose.

Now you can either keep ignoring my responses and keep thinking about what you do, or you can actually ask questions when you see my posts when you don't understand something like C-Mag does and actually learn something for once.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Mon May 02, 2022 7:18 am

He's a disingenuous debater: he only does fly-by warmongering.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by The Conservative » Mon May 02, 2022 7:24 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Mon May 02, 2022 7:18 am
He's a disingenuous debater: he only does fly-by warmongering.
You allow him on here, so I give him a fair shake. I can only lead a horse to water, I can't make the decision for it to either allow it to drink, or drown in the attempt.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Mon May 02, 2022 7:55 am

One thing I find very worrisome about his presence is that I've noticed if someone swallows even one of the narratives: TDS, Covidian, Ukrainiot; they tend to be sucked into the enemy's camp. I never considered Capps a Globalist or Marxist, even though he's Canadian, but now that he's enthusiastically supporting one of their core issues, I'm afraid he's gone. Notice his sanctimonious trolling with no sense of self-awareness: it's a sure sign.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by The Conservative » Mon May 02, 2022 8:11 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Mon May 02, 2022 7:55 am
One thing I find very worrisome about his presence is that I've noticed if someone swallows even one of the narratives: TDS, Covidian, Ukrainiot; they tend to be sucked into the enemy's camp. I never considered Capps a Globalist or Marxist, even though he's Canadian, but now that he's enthusiastically supporting one of their core issues, I'm afraid he's gone. Notice his sanctimonious trolling with no sense of self-awareness: it's a sure sign.
Why do you think I gave Smitty a hard time? Same shit, different person. I don't want to say I saw through it first, but they both pedal the same narrative. It's either because they are Canadians or Globialsits, and I can't figure out which one is worse right now.
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