Meanwhile in Ukraine

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:53 am

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by StCapps » Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:02 am

C-Mag wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:50 am
StCapps wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:37 am
C-Mag wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:16 am


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NO, I don't think you do.

That show has predicted the future of the US - Ukraine - Russia conflict. Here are the key points
1. If a dominant power keeps expanding, lesser nations will join to oppose them.
2. Ukraine is not one country. It is at least two and maybe more. One half the country considers themselves Russians.
3. It's a Failure to not understand you adversary. Simply calling Russia bad or evil is for morons.
4. Ukrainian Democracy and Independence is a Farce. When the US the leaked conversation between Victoria Nuland and Jeffrey Pyatt proved that and they referenced that Jake Sullivan and then VP Joe Biden were involved in selecting the next puppet in Ukraine.
5. Buchannan's accurate predictions -
a. A Friendly Russia is vital to US security
b. If we continue to antagonize Russia, they will declare their own Monroe Doctrine and it will threaten NATO solidarity and threaten Nuclear War.
c. There will be blowback against the US and Balance of Power will return, resulting in closer relations if not an alliance between Russia and China.



You should go get CS 270 - Poking the Bear....................................It's only a Buck a Show.
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the show was okay

the thread was were it was at

Smitty-48 > Dan Carlin
OH, I see.
Should I give you a minute to move the Goal Posts ?

The content of that show hold true today. We don't know where this war is going. It could go Nuclear, and if it doesn't not much else matters. Though history says the more dramatic an event, the less likely it is to happen.

What is more likely is the Balance of Power rule coming into play, and if you are paying attention to anything other than the bravery of Zelensky and his livestreaming when he's high you'll notice that Russia is making trade alliances outside of the US and West. He's trading independent of the petro dollar with Turkey, India, China and others. And it will weaken the dollar. Russia is trading energy, resources and food in Rubles, Gold, Rupees and Yuan.

Pootin is not a genius playing 4D Chess, he doesn't have any other choice. And we forced him to do this.
And if you're China or India and you've watched the last 20 years, you see the ruins of Iraq, Libya, Syria and now what NATO is doing in Ukraine you gotta be wondering if you're next after they destroy Russia.

This war has hurt all of us, and will continue to hurt all of us. The war is NATO - Ukraine - Russia, Ukraine is just the chosen battlefield and there are no good guys. Cheering on Ukraine or continuing this war is damn foolish.
The thread was infinitely better than the show

Russia's deals aren't meaningful

Russia and China being tight is fake news

ain't no one siding with Russia or China against America

why wouldn't I cheer on a country defending itself from Russia's warmongering faggotry?

muh sphere of influence? gtfo

there are twice as many people living in Russia's "sphere of influence" than in Russia itself

Russia is not entitled to them, they can fuck off

if they don't, fuck around and find out

they can't even handle Ukraine without getting entangled in a giant clusterfuck

their economy is the size of Canada's and their military has been exposed as total sheit

they will reap what they sow
*yip*

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:16 am

OK, we’ve heard you. Anything new? Some facts about troop movements, weapons deployed, etc.?
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by StCapps » Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:23 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:16 am
OK, we’ve heard you. Anything new? Some facts about troop movements, weapons deployed, etc.?
Russia is massing in the East

but just throwing mass at Ukraine with no real plan or preparation

is why they're getting their ass kicked

so I see them running into yet another buzzsaw

because they are trying the same shit and have learned nothing apparently
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:34 am

StCapps wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:23 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:16 am
OK, we’ve heard you. Anything new? Some facts about troop movements, weapons deployed, etc.?
Russia is massing in the East

but just throwing mass at Ukraine with no real plan or preparation


because they are trying the same shit and have learned nothing apparently
Reference ?
How do you know they have no real plan ?


I have read the Russian opinion through Pro-Russian Telegram channels.
I know how they have described their Phase I operations and their general goals for Phase II.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by StCapps » Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:46 am

C-Mag wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:34 am
StCapps wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:23 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:16 am
OK, we’ve heard you. Anything new? Some facts about troop movements, weapons deployed, etc.?
Russia is massing in the East

but just throwing mass at Ukraine with no real plan or preparation


because they are trying the same shit and have learned nothing apparently
Reference ?
How do you know they have no real plan ?


I have read the Russian opinion through Pro-Russian Telegram channels.
I know how they have described their Phase I operations and their general goals for Phase II.
the captured Russian troops say so

and it lines up with what has happened so far

many troops didn't even know they were invading at the time of invasion

driving a 40km convoy to Kiev and running out of gas after a day is another obvious telltale sign of vast incompetence at a truly staggering scale

Russia has no idea wtf it's doing

their logistics are hot garbage

their equipment is substandard

the troops are poorly trained

and they are not cohesively working as a team in the field

poor communication and leadership coming out the ass

this performance has exposed them as paper tiger boutique army potemkin village

whether the folks on Telegram can see it or not
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Haumana » Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:56 am

StCapps wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:46 am
C-Mag wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:34 am
StCapps wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:23 am


Russia is massing in the East

but just throwing mass at Ukraine with no real plan or preparation


because they are trying the same shit and have learned nothing apparently
Reference ?
How do you know they have no real plan ?


I have read the Russian opinion through Pro-Russian Telegram channels.
I know how they have described their Phase I operations and their general goals for Phase II.
the captured Russian troops say so

and it lines up with what has happened so far

many troops didn't even know they were invading at the time of invasion

driving a 40km convoy to Kiev and running out of gas after a day is another obvious telltale sign of vast incompetence at a truly staggering scale

Russia has no idea wtf it's doing

their logistics are hot garbage

their equipment is substandard

the troops are poorly trained

and they are not cohesively working as a team in the field

poor communication and leadership coming out the ass

this performance has exposed them as paper tiger boutique army potemkin village

whether the folks on Telegram can see it or not
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:10 pm

St Capps, there's points of that I don't disagree with, but there is a glaring logic break in your assessment.

Russia attacked with 200,000 troops against 600,000 defenders.

How did a force with a 1:3 disadvantage who in your description, " Incompetent, Sub-Standard and poorly, trained, supplied & led" take over 20-25% of Ukraine, destroy over 95% of Ukrainian military equipment and destroy Ukrainian strongholds in the south ? On top of that, they are on the Offensive.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:29 pm

As of today, 10 EU gas traders have opened ruble accounts at Gasprom and 4 have made payments.
Russia shut off gas to Poland and Bulgaria for not opening accounts.
Russia shut off gas to the former subsidiary that Germany nationalized.
The ruble has gained value.

Russia has taken out all but two railway lines.
Over 90% of Ukrainian armor has been destroyed.
Mariupol is taken.
The Ukrainian military massed in the Donbas region is saying they will fall without resupply.
The equipment the West is sending Ukraine is old, requires training, and can't be delivered to the battlefield.
America has exhausted its own supply of weapons.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:48 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:29 pm
As of today, 10 EU gas traders have opened ruble accounts at Gasprom and 4 have made payments.
Russia shut off gas to Poland and Bulgaria for not opening accounts.
Russia shut off gas to the former subsidiary that Germany nationalized.
The ruble has gained value.

Russia has taken out all but two railway lines.
Over 90% of Ukrainian armor has been destroyed.
Mariupol is taken.
The Ukrainian military massed in the Donbas region is saying they will fall without resupply.
The equipment the West is sending Ukraine is old, requires training, and can't be delivered to the battlefield.
America has exhausted its own supply of weapons.
Good Summary.

The transportation piece is huge. I didn't know Ukraine only has two remaining train lines. Their logistics tail runs all the way back to the United States now, and they have to have resupply because of how much equipment they've lost. NATO as a whole are spending their arsenals on defeating Russia. They are sending all the older stock, Germany is sending Gephard AAA armor as of this week. Gotta train troops to use them, gotta get them into theatre and you have to supply them.

Russia has captured so many Western anti armor hand held weapons that they are setting up training for Russian troops to use them.
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