Meanwhile in Ukraine

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Haumana » Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:39 am

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:07 am
Haumana wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:48 am
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:09 am

Now our press has whipped up a frenzy against anyone or anything Russian.
These are the same people that randomly attacked German-Americans in WWI, sent Japanese to internment camps and lynched Blacks who stepped on the wrong side of the tracks.
Exactly. When was the last time that they were actually on the "right" side of history?
When Trump forced us out of stupid wars.
The press was fully against that, so were the neocons.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:49 am

Haumana wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:39 am
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:07 am
Haumana wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:48 am


Exactly. When was the last time that they were actually on the "right" side of history?
When Trump forced us out of stupid wars.
The press was fully against that, so were the neocons.
Trump is the only chance right now: DeSantis on-deck.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:09 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:49 am

Trump is the only chance right now: DeSantis on-deck.
I agree.

If we last as a nation to 2024 Trump - DeSantis is a winner. Both make the other stronger.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:38 am

CIA analyst Larry Johnson suggested that the Russian encirclement of Kyiv over the past three weeks was intended to tie up significant Ukrainian resources so that Russia could conduct large-scale operations in the east and south. Problem solved.

In his opinion, the remaining groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass and Kharkiv will become the next object of Russian efforts. Eliminating them is the next task.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by I just Lurk » Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:10 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:49 am
Haumana wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:39 am
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:07 am


When Trump forced us out of stupid wars.
The press was fully against that, so were the neocons.
Trump is the only chance right now: DeSantis on-deck.
What's to stop a shamelection 2.0?
NukeDog was right

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SilverEagle » Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:35 pm

I just Lurk wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:10 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:49 am
Haumana wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:39 am


The press was fully against that, so were the neocons.
Trump is the only chance right now: DeSantis on-deck.
What's to stop a shamelection 2.0?
Over 300 million guns. This time around it will be obvious, honestly it was obvious in 2020, and words won’t be able to protect the criminals. If they rig that election it would be suicide.

74 million Trump votes. About 12 million more than he got in 2016. Won 18 of 19 bellwether counties. Won Ohio by more than 8%, won FL by more than 3%. 5 million more votes than Obama had in 2008. Hell more votes than any other presidential candidate.

And people really think Biden got 81 million votes?! Lol right!

If they try that shit again in 2024……it won’t end well.
There is a time for good men to do bad things.

For fuck sake, 1984 is NOT an instruction manual!

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:05 pm

I just Lurk wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:10 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:49 am
Haumana wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:39 am


The press was fully against that, so were the neocons.
Trump is the only chance right now: DeSantis on-deck.
What's to stop a shamelection 2.0?
Absolutely this.

At least the system will be exposed.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:07 pm

Scott Ritter gives a lesson
- Former Marine Intel Officer and UN Inspector
1/ Big Arrow War—a primer. For all those scratching their heads in confusion, or dusting off their dress uniforms for the Ukrainian victory parade in Kiev, over the news about Russia’s “strategic shift”, you might want to re-familiarize yourself with basic military concepts.

2/ Maneuver warfare is a good place to start. Understand Russia started its “special military operation” with a severe manpower deficit—200,000 attackers to some 600,000 defenders (or more). Classic attritional conflict was never an option. Russian victory required maneuver.

3/ Maneuver war is more psychological than physical and focuses more on the operational than on the tactical level. Maneuver is relational movement—how you deploy and move your forces in relation to your opponent. Russian maneuver in the first phase of its operation support this.

4/ The Russians needed to shape the battlefield to their advantage. In order to do this, they needed to control how Ukraine employed it’s numerically superior forces, while distributing their own smaller combat power to best accomplish this objective.

5/ Strategically, to facilitate the ability to maneuver between the southern, central, and northern fronts, Russia needed to secure a land bridge between Crimea and Russia. The seizure of the coastal city of Mariupol was critical to this effort. Russia has accomplished this task.

6/ While this complex operation unfolded, Russia needed to keep Ukraine from maneuvering its numerically superior forces in a manner that disrupted the Mariupol operation. This entailed the use of several strategic supporting operations—feints, fixing operations, and deep attack.

7/ The concept of a feint is simple—a military force either is seen as preparing to attack a given location, or actually conducts an attack, for the purpose of deceiving an opponent into committing resources in response to the perceived or actual actions.

8/ The use of the feint played a major role in Desert Storm, where Marine Amphibious forces threatened the Kuwaiti coast, forcing Iraq to defend against an attack that never came, and where the 1st Cavalry Division actually attacked Wadi Al Batin to pin down the Republican Guard.

9/ The Russians made extensive use of the feint in Ukraine, with Amphibious forces off Odessa freezing Ukrainian forces there, and a major feint attack toward Kiev compelling Ukraine to reinforce their forces there. Ukraine was never able to reinforce their forces in the east.

10/ Fixing operations were also critical. Ukraine had assembled some 60,000-100,000 troops in the east, opposite Donbas. Russia carried out a broad fixing attack designed to keep these forces fully engaged and unable to maneuver in respect to other Russian operations.

11/ During Desert Storm, two Marine Divisions were ordered to carry out similar fixing attacks against Iraqi forces deployed along the Kuwaiti-Saudi border, tying down significant numbers of men and material that could not be used to counter the main US attack out west.

12/ The Russian fixing attack pinned the main Ukrainian concentration of forces in the east, and drove them away from Mariupol, which was invested and reduced. Supporting operations out of Crimea against Kherson expanded the Russian land bridge. This phase is now complete.

13/ Russia also engaged in a campaign of strategic deep attack designed to disrupt and destroy Ukrainian logistics, command & control, and air power and long-range fire support. Ukraine is running out of fuel and ammo, cannot coordinate maneuver, and has no meaningful Air Force.

14/ Russia is redeploying some of its premier units from where they had been engaged in feint operations in northern Kiev to where they can support the next phase of the operation, namely the liberation of the Donbas and the destruction of the main Ukrainian force in the east.

15/ This is classic maneuver warfare. Russia will now hold Ukraine in the north and south while its main forces, reinforced by the northern units, Marines, and forces freed up by the capture of Mariupol, seek to envelope and destroy 60,000 Ukrainian forces in the east.

16/ This is Big Arrow War at its finest, something Americans used to know but forgot in the deserts and mountains of Afghanistan and Iraq. It also explains how 200,000 Russians have been able to defeat 600,000 Ukrainians. Thus ends the primer on maneuver warfare, Russian style.
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The most shocking thing here is the statement that 200,000 Russians attacked 600,000 Ukraine troops.
I'm going to try and confirm that.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Haumana » Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:58 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:07 pm

The most shocking thing here is the statement that 200,000 Russians attacked 600,000 Ukraine troops.
I'm going to try and confirm that.
Those are the numbers that I have heard as well.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:35 pm

Haumana wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:58 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:07 pm

The most shocking thing here is the statement that 200,000 Russians attacked 600,000 Ukraine troops.
I'm going to try and confirm that.
Those are the numbers that I have heard as well.
That certainly changes the perspective on things.
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