The US will eventually go to war in Mexico against the Cartels

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The US will eventually go to war in Mexico against the Cartels

Post by C-Mag » Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:24 am

A US Consulate in Mexico has been attacked by the Cartels.
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The US consulate in the Mexican border city of Nuevo Laredo was attacked with gunfire on Monday, forcing it to temporarily close.

Shots were fired at the consulate and fires were started in the city following the arrest of gang leader Juan Gerardo Trevino, who is facing extradition to the US on charges of drug trafficking, money laundering, murder, terrorism, and other crimes.

The consulate issued a warning to Americans in the city on Monday, advising them to “avoid the area or seek secure shelter” due to an “emergency situation” near the consulate building. The consulate later revealed the emergency situation to be gunfire.
Video of the aftermath of the attack with destroyed burning vehicles
https://www.the-sun.com/news/4896969/vi ... -attacked/

Not much reporting on this. The Cartels now control our southern border. The current administration only cares about the borders of Ukraine and not America.

We eventually will have to go to war with the Cartels to restore control of the border.
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Re: The US will eventually go to war in Mexico against the Cartels

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:31 pm

Much more legitimate cause than anything else we’ve done for 50 years.
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Re: The US will eventually go to war in Mexico against the Cartels

Post by TheOneX » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:32 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:31 pm
Much more legitimate cause than anything else we’ve done for 50 years.
I would agree with that. Cleaning up Mexico would probably only benefit the US. Then again maybe keeping the cost of labor in Mexico down is part of the plan for decoupling from China.

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Re: The US will eventually go to war in Mexico against the Cartels

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:58 am

Except you have maybe 30 million Mexican nationals spread around CONUS from which the cartels can conscript or enlist insurgents and wage the bloodiest terror campaign against us in the history of mankind. There's that little problem.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:08 am

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Re: The US will eventually go to war in Mexico against the Cartels

Post by SilverEagle » Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:14 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:58 am
Except you have maybe 30 million Mexican nationals spread around CONUS from which the cartels can conscript or enlist insurgents and wage the bloodiest terror campaign against us in the history of mankind. There's that little problem.
If they do that their country would be flattened.
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Re: The US will eventually go to war in Mexico against the Cartels

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:18 am

SilverEagle wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:14 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:58 am
Except you have maybe 30 million Mexican nationals spread around CONUS from which the cartels can conscript or enlist insurgents and wage the bloodiest terror campaign against us in the history of mankind. There's that little problem.
If they do that their country would be flattened.
So would ours.

Have you ever served? We have 30 million potential insurgents in this country. It's something you ought to consider before you decide to send other men to go fight a war for you. This particular war you want you are going to have a tough time with.

It's not going to work unless most the Mexican nationals are on our side. That's your problem. You have to secure that objective first.

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Re: The US will eventually go to war in Mexico against the Cartels

Post by TheOneX » Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:22 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:58 am
Except you have maybe 30 million Mexican nationals spread around CONUS from which the cartels can conscript or enlist insurgents and wage the bloodiest terror campaign against us in the history of mankind. There's that little problem.
I don't think the majority of Mexicans in the US are friendly to the cartels. Most of them probably came here trying to get away from the cartels.

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Re: The US will eventually go to war in Mexico against the Cartels

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:36 am

TheOneX wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:22 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:58 am
Except you have maybe 30 million Mexican nationals spread around CONUS from which the cartels can conscript or enlist insurgents and wage the bloodiest terror campaign against us in the history of mankind. There's that little problem.
I don't think the majority of Mexicans in the US are friendly to the cartels. Most of them probably came here trying to get away from the cartels.
The cartels literally hire all their employees from the Mexican nationals here. They can easily conscript these people by kidnapping those people's family members.

This shouldn't need to be spelled out and explained to you. They do these things right now to get drugs delivered or murders committed inside the United States.

There's a blog called Border Beat that covers what goes on if you really want to understand the problem. There's no value in being a chicken hawk, especially when in this case your war isn't simply going to send somebody else's sons to some other country but could get you blown up in the KFC drive thru. Not exactly the noble death, but probably appropriate for chicken hawks who started such a conflict.


I told you guys like ten years ago we need to reform immigration so that we know who is here, have a vetting process, etc., and this can't happen. You torched me for being a "racist". Now a lot of you became actual racists and that can't solve the problem. It's too late now anyway. The official estimates have it at just under 11 million Mexican nationals having emigrated to the United States. Most of them are probably decent people, but the risk to us of letting that many people come here from an unstable nation with cartels like that who use kidnappings, torture, and murder to coerce people to do their crimes is enormous. If we went to "war" with cartels, we would see suicide bombers everywhere. Imagine if a cartel had your child and the only way they would let him or her live is if you put on a suicide vest and blow up some food court or something. Imagine that choice. You might say you are so strong you wouldn't do it and your daughter would die. Okay. But what about the next guy? Every Mexican national or naturalized citizen has family over there.

The world isn't as simple as chicken hawks believe. See Ukraine debacle.
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Re: The US will eventually go to war in Mexico against the Cartels

Post by Xenophon » Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:37 am

TheOneX wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:22 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:58 am
Except you have maybe 30 million Mexican nationals spread around CONUS from which the cartels can conscript or enlist insurgents and wage the bloodiest terror campaign against us in the history of mankind. There's that little problem.
I don't think the majority of Mexicans in the US are friendly to the cartels. Most of them probably came here trying to get away from the cartels.
Most non-citizen Mexican immigrants are here for work, not because they're afraid of the cartels. The Cartels are a part of Mexican culture.