Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Speaker to Animals]

well I think Zelensky is just trying to get a ceasefire

to save his civilians from being slaughtered

I don't see it as a concession

since there was never any offer on the table from NATO for Ukraine to join

Zlelensky cannot concede something which he never had in the first place

The West was teasing Ukraine about NATO induction which was a clear provocation to Russia. Can we agree on that?

the Biden Administration was refusing to say that Ukraine would "never" join NATO

nobody said Ukraine was joining NATO

the Russians were demanding some statement which said Ukraine would NEVER join NATO

Biden refused to state that

and then Putin launched an all out war of annihilation, preemptive aggressive war by definition

Exactly, which by default is a war on NATO when you really lay it out like this.

They don't tell us what to do.

[Speaker to Animals]

Dark days.

I don't think so

the Ukrainians are fighting for God against Soviet Bolshevism

holding the line against overwhelming odds

glorious

Regardless these are indeed dark days.
The economic impact and the implementation of the Great Reset are setting in now. I just hope all of us here can weather the storm and keep our families intact. I think we can all agree on that.

This could well be war, man. All that political nonsense will be in the past, if so. If this escalates, we have to fight. This shit could get really ugly.

[Smitty-48]

I think we can all agree on that.

I can't agree

because I'm feeling great

optimistic

spring in my step

every day is a gift

Slava Ukraini

[Smitty-48]

Exactly, which by default is a war on NATO when you really lay it out like this.

They don't tell us what to do.

we simply cannot allow it

as an existential issue

within the context of the Balance of Terror

we cannot allow the Kremlin to dictate terms by nuclear blackmail

this is not politics, this is a strategic imperative

[Smitty-48]

This could well be war, man. All that political nonsense will be in the past, if so. If this escalates, we have to fight. This shit could get really ugly.

Happy warriors, enduring hardship gladly

in the beauty of the lilies, Christ was born across the sea

as he died to make men holy, let us die to make men free

onward Christian soldiers

[Speaker to Animals]

Exactly, which by default is a war on NATO when you really lay it out like this.

They don't tell us what to do.

we simply cannot allow it

as an existential issue

within the context of the Balance of Terror

we cannot allow the Kremlin to dictate terms by nuclear blackmail

this is not politics, this is a strategic imperative

Another thing that literally just occurred to me..

I wonder if NATO and Russia are kind of trapped into a conventional war here because of China.

If this escalates, how the fuck can we even launch at each other? Most likely, the US would win the subsequent conventional war. There's only 6k warheads on either side. We already have troops deployed all over the planet. They don't. But either way, China will still have all their arsenal after the nukes fly. They can run train on everybody.


Nobody can launch.

[Smitty-48]

Nobody can launch.

as always, I could only see an interpolar exchange by misapprehension, miscalculation and/or mistake

but we live under that sword of Damocles at all times in any case

as America has overwhelming conventional superiority, there is no need for us to use nuclear weapons

that the Russians would use tactical nuclear weapons against American forces in theater ?

possible, but they would lose that fight too

[SuburbanFarmer]

Razorfist thinks it’s all about government taking over the energy sector. Interesting idea.
That’s squares much more neatly with the WEF ‘plan’.

[Smitty-48]

the whole Globalist agenda just went out the window

Putin has reimposed bipolar world Iron Curtain

so Globalism is already dead, as of right now

[SuburbanFarmer]

the whole Globalist agenda just went out the window

Putin has reimposed bipolar world Iron Curtain

so Globalism is already dead, as of right now

Disagree. I’m leaning strongly toward this being part of The Plan.

It’s too incompetent, and pieces are moving too quickly in that direction.