Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Haumana]

well I think Zelensky is just trying to get a ceasefire

to save his civilians from being slaughtered

I don't see it as a concession

since there was never any offer on the table from NATO for Ukraine to join

Zlelensky cannot concede something which he never had in the first place

The West was teasing Ukraine about NATO induction which was a clear provocation to Russia. Can we agree on that?

[Fife]

"Like California, but with police" would make for a decent real estate brochure.

Yarvin gets a sensible chuckle while pointing out a sane American foreign policy.

https://graymirror.substack.com/p/a-new ... europe?s=r

[Speaker to Animals]

Angry? HAHA!

Where do you see anger?

I dunno. I am detecting a lot of radicalization here since I've been away. I think SuburbanFarmer is one of those Jan 7 insurrectionists now. It's kind of weird coming back. Maybe from your perspective of being in this water the whole time it's been heating up to a boil it seems normal, but it feels like a scene in Life of Brian in here. Are we the Peoples Front of Judea or Judean Peoples Front?

It happened on the 6th for starters. The fact that you even referenced that is a tell. It comes off as you watch too much tv, Corporate TV at that. CNN down at the Y?

Maybe you have been holed up with your weights too long getting swole worried about the pandemic?

Maybe you shouldn't be assuming that you can see anything from my perspective ?

That you don't see your own radicalization is another. Go back and read what you have written here since you came back.

I don't really watch tv much any longer. If I am sitting around with my girlfriend and she wants to watch Schitt's Creek or something, that's about it. I don't really follow American politics much. I think it's mostly stupid, honestly.

The insurrection was pretty much peak stupid as far as I could tell. I was pretty surprised the government went so soft. The fact that those people are not already rotting in long sentences for actual insurrection and sedition charges says to me we are pretty well late stage republic. So I just focus on me right now. When people like that get violent again, if my country calls on me to uphold my oath against those animals, I will do it. Other than that, I don't really care.

[Smitty-48]

well I think Zelensky is just trying to get a ceasefire

to save his civilians from being slaughtered

I don't see it as a concession

since there was never any offer on the table from NATO for Ukraine to join

Zlelensky cannot concede something which he never had in the first place

The West was teasing Ukraine about NATO induction which was a clear provocation to Russia. Can we agree on that?

the Biden Administration was refusing to say that Ukraine would "never" join NATO

nobody said Ukraine was joining NATO

the Russians were demanding some statement which said Ukraine would NEVER join NATO

Biden refused to state that

and then Putin launched an all out war of annihilation, preemptive aggressive war by definition

[Speaker to Animals]

"Like California, but with police" would make for a decent real estate brochure.

Yarvin gets a sensible chuckle while pointing out a sane American foreign policy.

https://graymirror.substack.com/p/a-new ... europe?s=r

What's the price of heroin in Crimea?

[Haumana]

the Biden Administration was refusing to say that Ukraine would "never" join NATO

nobody said Ukraine was joining NATO

the Russians were demanding some statement which said Ukraine would NEVER join NATO

Biden refused to state that

and then Putin launched an all out war of annihilation, preemptive aggressive war by definition

So that's kind of a yes. You already said that Ukraine has the potential (plutonium) for nukes. Potentially, they are NATO nukes which their stated goal is the demise of Russia.

Different Question: There wasn't shelling going on in the Donbass and Donetsk by Ukrainian military?

[Haumana]

I don't really watch tv much any longer. If I am sitting around with my girlfriend and she wants to watch Schitt's Creek or something, that's about it. I don't really follow American politics much. I think it's mostly stupid, honestly.

The insurrection was pretty much peak stupid as far as I could tell. I was pretty surprised the government went so soft. The fact that those people are not already rotting in long sentences for actual insurrection and sedition charges says to me we are pretty well late stage republic. So I just focus on me right now. When people like that get violent again, if my country calls on me to uphold my oath against those animals, I will do it. Other than that, I don't really care.

Just look at your language.

Insurrection, sedition, animals, violent again...

Do you even know what the majority of the actual charges are against those people are?

Keep getting swole!

[Smitty-48]

the Biden Administration was refusing to say that Ukraine would "never" join NATO

nobody said Ukraine was joining NATO

the Russians were demanding some statement which said Ukraine would NEVER join NATO

Biden refused to state that

and then Putin launched an all out war of annihilation, preemptive aggressive war by definition

So that's kind of a yes. You already said that Ukraine has the potential (plutonium) for nukes. Potentially, they are NATO nukes which their stated goal is the demise of Russia.

Different Question: There wasn't shelling going on in the Donbass and Donetsk by Ukrainian military?

well, to be clear, I give the Kremlin no rights at all

the Kremlin has no right to a Sphere of Influence, nor a Buffer Zone, nor anything like that

the Kremlin was only allowed to get away with shit,

because they didn't launch an all out war against the West

as to the shelling in the Donbass ?

both sides were shelling

that still doesn't justify the Russian actions, the Russian response is now exponentially disproportionate

the Ukrainians shelled Russian invaders

the Russians have responded by starting World War Three

[Haumana]

the Biden Administration was refusing to say that Ukraine would "never" join NATO

nobody said Ukraine was joining NATO

the Russians were demanding some statement which said Ukraine would NEVER join NATO

Biden refused to state that

and then Putin launched an all out war of annihilation, preemptive aggressive war by definition

So that's kind of a yes. You already said that Ukraine has the potential (plutonium) for nukes. Potentially, they are NATO nukes which their stated goal is the demise of Russia.

Different Question: There wasn't shelling going on in the Donbass and Donetsk by Ukrainian military?

well, to be clear, I give the Kremlin no rights at all

the Kremlin has no right to a Sphere of Influence, nor a Buffer Zone, nor anything like that

the Kremlin was only allowed to get away with shit,

because they didn't launch an all out war against the West

as to the shelling in the Donbass ?

both sides were shelling

that still doesn't justify the Russian actions, the Russian response is now exponentially disproportionate

Oh, ok. So, according to you, the 2nd most nuclear power is to be given no room to exist except with in their current box of borders. The West has the right to run up and delineate that box without any input from them?

Was Serbia right in their call to self determination regarding the Croats?

[Smitty-48]

just to be clear

the Russian "Sphere of Influence"

their Near Abroad Buffer Zone

that is not a law

nowhere is that written

in fact it is in contravention of the law

it's just something Josef Stalin and the Bolsheviks invented

so I don't recognize Russia's right to interfere in Ukraine in the slightest

and now Russia has foolishly crossed the Rubicon,

they have provoked a war which they are going to lose

and I shed no tears for them, since they are the Soviet aggressor again, by their own actions