Meanwhile in Ukraine

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:56 am

Haumana wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:51 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:47 am

because I know what I'm taking about
I can't say that that is not true. I have relied upon your insights for a long time now.

I am truly curious as to how this all plays out.
I'm simply saying that I know international law & the laws of armed conflict

professionally, as part of my previous career

it's not like what the Russians are doing is covert, or even subtle

they have declared war on us, and they are the aggressors

their claims of provocation are not justifications for their actions, even if they were provoked
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:58 am

Haumana wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:56 am
Are you trying to pretend that your heels weren't already dug in?
no, my heels are absolutely dug in

but I'm not the one asking you questions

like if you don't want to know, don't ask
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Haumana » Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:01 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:56 am


their claims of provocation are not justifications for their actions, even if they were provoked
Huh? " their claims of provocation are not justifications for their actions, even if they were provoked"

I'd like to hear the legal arguments of that. I just saw a dude get off for shooting another dude in the heart for throwing their bag of popcorn in their face. So I am not sure if you are in the position to declare legality of actions that you are claiming right now.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Haumana » Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:03 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:58 am
Haumana wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:56 am
Are you trying to pretend that your heels weren't already dug in?
no, my heels are absolutely dug in

but I'm not the one asking you questions

like if you don't want to know, don't ask
What?

I asked questions, you called them loaded and refused to answer. Don't put any on this shit on me. WFT. Yes, this time I AM cursing towards you.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Haumana » Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:06 am

I am going to bed with my cat. Thanks for the fun, Smitty. Night.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:08 am

Haumana wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:01 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:56 am


their claims of provocation are not justifications for their actions, even if they were provoked
Huh? " their claims of provocation are not justifications for their actions, even if they were provoked"

I'd like to hear the legal arguments of that. I just saw a dude get off for shooting another dude in the heart for throwing their bag of popcorn in their face. So I am not sure if you are in the position to declare legality of actions that you are claiming right now.
I don't feel the need to prove anything to you

believe whatever you want

why do you think I am trying to convince you of something ?
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:10 am

Haumana wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:03 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:58 am
Haumana wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:56 am
Are you trying to pretend that your heels weren't already dug in?
no, my heels are absolutely dug in

but I'm not the one asking you questions

like if you don't want to know, don't ask
What?

I asked questions, you called them loaded and refused to answer. Don't put any on this shit on me. WFT. Yes, this time I AM cursing towards you.
I'll answer whatever questions however I choose to

if you don't like my responses, go ahead and fuck off anytime then /shrugs
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Hastur » Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:17 am

The only option left to the Russians now is to do what they did in Chechnya and Syria. Indiscriminate terror against the civilian population.

In Syria the Doctors without borders had to take down their list of clinics when they discovered the Russian air force used it as a target list. Shit like that. They turned Groznyj into a pile of rubble. Then Spec Ops went in and got the president so they could put in their puppet.

They will not be able to do that either right now. Just locally to some cities under siege. Not the entire country and not to Kiev. Kiev is to big. They don't even have troops enough to encircle it.

The also don't have Aerial supremacy. That is surprising.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:41 am

I have been thinking about their air force and it occurred to me that they have always procured platforms and developed their military in such a way so as to counter NATO generally and the United States specifically. That means they have really good air defenses but they never really bothered to develop much in the way of air interdiction. They also never really hoped to achieve air dominance against us. They only needed to be able to stop our tankers.

I don't think they have the kinds of capabilities that we have. It's not even just that they failed to achieve air dominance. They can't seem to really do anything about all the small arms units that harass that pinned convoy. Between US Army gunships and USAF, we can use air power to target pretty much everything down to dogs and rabbits.

If you only build your military to counter NATO, then you don't have capabilities to conduct any other kind of serious war.

I am truly shocked at their lack of capabilities.

What in the ever fuck is our next NDAA debate going to sound like?? What are we spending all this money for?

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:43 am

Haumana wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:06 am
I am going to bed with my cat. Thanks for the fun, Smitty. Night.
https://www.comfortzone.com/behavior-bl ... -on-my-bed