How did Putin fuck this up so bad?Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:33 pmto secure a big city like Kyiv ?
if the opponent is resolved to defend it to the last man ?
you need ten to one advantage at least, to secure such a vast and exponentially complex objective
so if there are just 30,000 Ukrainians defending Kyiv ?
you need 300,000 Russian troops to secure it
if 50,000 Ukrainians are defending it
you need 500,000 Russian troops
this is why in the Gulf War, even with 500,000 troops, Colin Powell was not going to Baghdad
like 13,500 Marines to take Fallujah
Kyiv is 15 times the size of Fallujah
so to take Kyiv, just against poorly armed & trained goat herders ?
you would need 200,000+ Marines, which is more than the entire Marine Corps
it seems to be apparent now
that the Russians are just stuck
stuck right where they are
can't go forward much further, can't go back in the face of the now advancing Ukrainians
not enough troops to take the objective
but can't get Putin to call this disaster off
so they are just sitting in place idling, like sitting ducks
paralyzed by the sheer size and complexity of the task
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even just looking at the propaganda war
it's quite obvious that the Ukrainians are cutting the Russian columns down with ATGM's
there's ample evidence of wrecked Russian vehicles everywhere
where is the Russian propaganda ?
they do put some videos out, lots of glossy videos from Russia,
but nothing from the war zone
they cannot produce one bit of propaganda showing them winning anything at all decisively in Ukraine
it's quite obvious that the Ukrainians are cutting the Russian columns down with ATGM's
there's ample evidence of wrecked Russian vehicles everywhere
where is the Russian propaganda ?
they do put some videos out, lots of glossy videos from Russia,
but nothing from the war zone
they cannot produce one bit of propaganda showing them winning anything at all decisively in Ukraine
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how did George W. Bush make such a mess of the Iraq invasion ?Zlaxer wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:48 pmHow did Putin fuck this up so bad?Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:33 pmto secure a big city like Kyiv ?
if the opponent is resolved to defend it to the last man ?
you need ten to one advantage at least, to secure such a vast and exponentially complex objective
so if there are just 30,000 Ukrainians defending Kyiv ?
you need 300,000 Russian troops to secure it
if 50,000 Ukrainians are defending it
you need 500,000 Russian troops
this is why in the Gulf War, even with 500,000 troops, Colin Powell was not going to Baghdad
like 13,500 Marines to take Fallujah
Kyiv is 15 times the size of Fallujah
so to take Kyiv, just against poorly armed & trained goat herders ?
you would need 200,000+ Marines, which is more than the entire Marine Corps
it seems to be apparent now
that the Russians are just stuck
stuck right where they are
can't go forward much further, can't go back in the face of the now advancing Ukrainians
not enough troops to take the objective
but can't get Putin to call this disaster off
so they are just sitting in place idling, like sitting ducks
paralyzed by the sheer size and complexity of the task
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We steam rolled Iraq - occupation and series of bad decisions happened after initial invasion…Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:51 pmhow did George W. Bush make such a mess of Iraq ?Zlaxer wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:48 pmHow did Putin fuck this up so bad?Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:33 pmto secure a big city like Kyiv ?
if the opponent is resolved to defend it to the last man ?
you need ten to one advantage at least, to secure such a vast and exponentially complex objective
so if there are just 30,000 Ukrainians defending Kyiv ?
you need 300,000 Russian troops to secure it
if 50,000 Ukrainians are defending it
you need 500,000 Russian troops
this is why in the Gulf War, even with 500,000 troops, Colin Powell was not going to Baghdad
like 13,500 Marines to take Fallujah
Kyiv is 15 times the size of Fallujah
so to take Kyiv, just against poorly armed & trained goat herders ?
you would need 200,000+ Marines, which is more than the entire Marine Corps
it seems to be apparent now
that the Russians are just stuck
stuck right where they are
can't go forward much further, can't go back in the face of the now advancing Ukrainians
not enough troops to take the objective
but can't get Putin to call this disaster off
so they are just sitting in place idling, like sitting ducks
paralyzed by the sheer size and complexity of the task
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because Rumsfeld & Cheney were bailed out by the sheer quality of US military personnel
whereas in this case, Ivan Rumsfeld & Dick Putin are trying to pull this off with Russian conscripts
the Russian army is like 50% conscripts with zero motivation and minimal training
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All true, but how did Putin not see this as a problem?Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:54 pmbecause Rumsfeld & Cheney were bailed out by the sheer quality of US military personnel
whereas in this case, Ivan Rumsfeld & Dick Putin are trying to pull this off with Russian conscripts
the Russian army is like 50% conscripts with zero motivation and minimal training
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because he's not military, he's KGB,Zlaxer wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:55 pmAll true, but how did Putin not see this as a problem?Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:54 pmbecause Rumsfeld & Cheney were bailed out by the sheer quality of US military personnel
whereas in this case, Ivan Rumsfeld & Dick Putin are trying to pull this off with Russian conscripts
the Russian army is like 50% conscripts with zero motivation and minimal training
he's a spy, not a General
but I mean, look at these pathetic Russian troops
check the one being captured because he's passed out drunk after looting a liquor store
this is the Russian army, dude, this is what they are like
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I get why the soviets are stalled….the question how the fuck did the no.1 KGB Boris Baddenoff not realize his forces were not in any condition to take Ukraine in under a week and without looking like the fucking train wreck they are?Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:57 pmbecause he's not military, he's KGB,Zlaxer wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:55 pmAll true, but how did Putin not see this as a problem?Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:54 pm
because Rumsfeld & Cheney were bailed out by the sheer quality of US military personnel
whereas in this case, Ivan Rumsfeld & Dick Putin are trying to pull this off with Russian conscripts
the Russian army is like 50% conscripts with zero motivation and minimal training
he's a spy, not a General
but I mean, look at these pathetic Russian troops
check the one being captured because he's passed out drunk after looting a liquor store
this the Russian army, dude, this is what the Soviet army was like too
Don’t you think it’s weird he was so far off in his plans?
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How did Syria go? Russians were there as advisors, similar playbook, and Assad is still in charge. Despite the wishes of Hillary and the rest of her usual entourage of neo warhawks.
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the whole Russian narrative is simply being exposed as false
Ukraine is the real country that the people are willing to fight & die for
Russia is the fake country which nobody wants to fight for
I can only assume that the Russians made the classic mistake of believing their own press releases
Ukraine is the real country that the people are willing to fight & die for
Russia is the fake country which nobody wants to fight for
I can only assume that the Russians made the classic mistake of believing their own press releases
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