Meanwhile in Ukraine

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:29 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:17 pm
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Not that Washington DC cares
They literally passed a law that gives the President the authority to start a war as long as he notifies them within 48 hours. I guess Thomas Massie didn't read that far. LOL These libertarians at this point are not even a source of amusement. I mean here we are on the eve of a nuclear fucking war.

Like.. grow up Thomas Massie. If you don't like this, then maybe convince your peers to repeal the War Powers Resolution. But then, if you do that, and Russia surprise attacks, can we count on you spineless weasels to show up on time to declare war or do we just use the nearest stick to fuck ourselves?

Sorry, man, but this libertarian bullshit is so fucking off label right now. It's a deadly prescription right now. The entire economy is fucked because of people like this. The world can't be fixed by people like this right now.

If Russia is going to keep escalating, the last fucking thing I want is for my fate to be in the hands of God damned Congress.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:31 pm

Question.

Has the Ukraine ever truly been and independent nation with self determination ?

I'm not sure they really have. They left the Soviet Union and fell right into the US Hegemony.
Ukrainians used to die for Lenin, now they die for Biden :x
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:33 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:31 pm
Question.

Has the Ukraine ever truly been and independent nation with self determination ?

I'm not sure they really have. They left the Soviet Union and fell right into the US Hegemony.
Ukrainians used to die for Lenin, now they die for Biden :x
Ukraine is the original sovereign country

the Rus came down from the Lapland

settled in Kyiv, on the banks of the Dnieper

thus they became the Kievan Rus

the first Russians

they then sought an empire in the east, on the banks of another river

founding a colony called Muscovy, now Moskva
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:34 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:31 pm
Question.

Has the Ukraine ever truly been and independent nation with self determination ?

I'm not sure they really have. They left the Soviet Union and fell right into the US Hegemony.
Ukrainians used to die for Lenin, now they die for Biden :x
Originally it was the other way around.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:43 pm

this is Russian vs Russian in any case

half the citizens of Ukraine are ethnic Russians

the east is dominated by ethnic Russians

Kharkiv is more Russian than most cities in Russia

Putin is mass murdering Russians

Russians are fighting Putin to the last man here

this is a Russian meltdown to the threshold of total war

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:00 pm

I'd also add that Thomas Massie conveniently voted EVERY TIME in favor of Russia the entire time he was in office. Maybe all those votes were legitimately justifiable. I don't know, but I doubt it, especially not the recent one. This guy, every single time, will vote in Russia's interests. So here he is with his "sober take" on the conflict with Russia, which Russia started, and he fails to mention the fact that Congress already authorized the president to act like this and they keep reauthorizing it, including him. God damned libertarian Thomas Massie said FUCK YES! to the War Powers Act when Trump assassinated an Iranian general using a 500 million dollar missile, and then Massie only voted to bitch in a non-binding vote later because Trump failed to notify Congress within 48 hours. Yet here he is acting surprised that a president could just send anti-tank missiles to Ukrainian troops defending their country from the very war criminals that apparently pay for his campaign funds. YMMV

I really don't give a much of a shit about this political game people play anymore. I hate both of these parties. But if this really is the cold war it looks like, Americans need to seriously look at the GOP and realize that a significant part of that party is owned and controlled by the Kremlin. So is Fox News. There needs to be a shake out. Mike Pence just raised the colors on that battle too. There's no room for Putin apologists in the GOP. Fuck Massie. Fuck a lot of those guys. Massie, Tucker Carlson. The lot of them. They own this shit and they don't even have the integrity to admit they were wrong and change course.

And the DNC aren't innocent little lambs either. People don't realize how fucked this situation really is. How fucking totally mixed up this is. Both governments are up in each other's shit in a big way.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:06 pm

warrior poet

leading from the front

while NATO cowers

can't get more alpha than this

Slava

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:15 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:06 pm
warrior poet

leading from the front

while NATO cowers

can't get more alpha than this

Slava

Much more effective than Twitter shitposting. This guy is the new way.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:18 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:15 pm
This guy is the new way.
there are all these supposed conservatives online trying to cut him down

I don't understand why
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:19 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:18 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:15 pm
This guy is the new way.
there are all these supposed conservatives online trying to cut him down

I don't understand why
Everything is political now. Ukraine is the DNCs baby.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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