Meanwhile in Ukraine

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:15 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:04 pm

Where is this from?
Original Source
https://ria.ru/20220306/biooruzhie-1776951830.html

Translation done by a Blogger
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/

He's pro Russian in this conflict, knows the Russian language.

Here's a quote from another post of his, sums up his perspective
I am on record already--bar some very few exceptions of a professional and objective analysis from Western professionals (i.e. Macgregor, Ritter, Armstrong, Saker et al), the reporting and analyzing Russia's operation in 404 by US military "experts", including all those senior and highest ranked officers, disqualifies them completely from being taken seriously and as people who know the subject. No wonder then to see the US war record of the last 75 years. Responding to other "professors" of what have you who spew plain simple ukie propaganda--there is no even need to discuss that. The West is in full blown war against Russia and because of that there is no low and lying they will not stoop to.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:53 pm

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Haumana » Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:32 pm

Kind of timely and odd (not really) that it is being buried by the typical corporate controllers of information.

Anyone watched it? I am watching now.

Ukraine on Fire Documentary.

https://vimeo.com/332524840

https://www.redvoicemedia.com/video/202 ... tary-2016/

"Ukraine. Across its eastern border is Russia and to its west-Europe. For centuries, it has been at the center of a tug-of-war between powers seeking to control its rich lands and access to the Black Sea. 2014's Maidan Massacre triggered a bloody uprising that ousted president Viktor Yanukovych and painted Russia as the perpetrator by Western media. But was it? "Ukraine on Fire" by Igor Lopatonok provides a historical perspective for the deep divisions in the region which lead to the 2004 Orange Revolution, 2014 uprisings, and the violent overthrow of democratically elected Yanukovych. Covered by Western media as a people's revolution, it was in fact a coup d'état scripted and staged by nationalist groups and the U.S. State Department. Investigative journalist Robert Parry reveals how U.S.-funded political NGOs and media companies have emerged since the 80s replacing the CIA in promoting America's geopolitical agenda abroad." - IMDB Summary

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:55 pm

It really doesn't matter if we believe that the US and Ukraine were making biological agents in Ukraine.
It only matters if the Russians believe it.

2017 Article on the subject.
President Vladimir Putin on Monday held a conference with the Civil Society and Human Rights Development Council fielding questions on the topics du jour — theater director Kirill Serebrennikov’s embezzlement trial and the recent knife attack on journalist Tatiana Felgenhauer.

At one point, council member Igor Borisov raised concerns that foreigners were taking photos of Russians, for unknown — potentially malicious — purposes, he implied.

But that was no concern of Putin’s. He brushed the question aside to pivot to an altogether more unexpected concern: That foreigners are collecting biomaterials across Russia — “purposefully and professionally.” This, the president seemed to suggest, was the more nefarious affair.

“Why are they going to different ethnic groups and to people living in different geographical locations across Russia?” the president asked. “Why are they doing this?”

That night, Franz Klintsevich, the deputy chairman of the Federation Council’s Committee for Defense and Security, offered a theory.

“I’m not saying that this is about preparing a biological war against Russia,” he wrote on his Facebook page. “But those scenarios, without a doubt, are being developed. That is to say, in case the need suddenly arises.”

It wasn’t long until some of Russia’s most infamous officials were adding to the charged rhetoric. The collection of Russian fluids, organs and tissues, said Gennady Onishchenko of the Duma’s committee on education and science, is “nothing other than proof that the United States has not ceased its offensive military program."

To cap it off, Onishchenko claimed there was a "belt of biological warfare facilities" surrounding Russia in neighboring Georgia, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan and Ukraine.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2017/11/ ... ons-a59464
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:00 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:55 pm

It only matters if the Russians believe it.
fuck the Russians

they are going to be reduced to a third world shit hole now

and they're going to lose the long war in Ukraine

that's their problem

people in Russia should defect while they still can
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:10 pm

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:10 pm

the Russians are killing their own people

Kharkiv in eastern Ukraine ?

those are ethnic Russians Putin is indiscriminately shelling

Russia dgaf about Russians

Russians should defect to Ukraine's side if they want to save themselves
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Haumana » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:12 pm

It is so weird to see previous allies on a subject now be at odds. It is almost like this is all part of the plan. I don't really give a shit about anything that isn't happening in my daily life, to be quite blunt. Ukraine, Russia... meh. I have zero emotional investment.

But it is interesting to see people who were on the same side against the covaids tyranny now be divided while the war hawks and fascists just picked up a percentage of their opposition. :think: I still don't believe the lying liars and this new story that they are trying to sell me. It could end up being to my own detriment but fuck them.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Haumana » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:13 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:10 pm
When the dead, just won't stay dead
https://gab.com/Robert1967Lane/posts/107912230957131251
HAHA! WTF? Who can take any of this a gospel?

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:14 pm

Haumana wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:12 pm
It is so weird to see previous allies on a subject now be at odds. It is almost like this is all part of the plan. I don't really give a shit about anything that isn't happening in my daily life, to be quite blunt. Ukraine, Russia... meh. I have zero emotional investment.

But it is interesting to see people who were on the same side against the covaids tyranny now be divided while the war hawks and fascists just picked up a percentage of their opposition. :think: I still don't believe the lying liars and this new story that they are trying to sell me. It could end up being to my own detriment but fuck them.
Just because I despise Jimmy Carter and his domestic policies

doesn't mean I sympathize with the Soviets in the Kremlin

just because I despise Justin Trudeau

doesn't mean I throw the Ukrainian people under the bus

I don't do identity politics, I just call it as I see it
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