Meanwhile in Ukraine

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the Russian Perimetr system is likely switched on right now

that's Dead Hand

if the Ukrainians assaulted Chernobyl and clipped the Elephants Foot, and it goes off ?

that would set Perimiter off

that would cause a salvo of Russian command ICBMs to launch

then they would send out a signal causing the whole Russian strategic deterrent to launch on warning

that would be a massive countervalue strike against the CONUS with 1500 thermonuclear warheads

this is why the Russians made Chernobyl the first objective

make sure you've got the Elephants Foot under control

but that is why the Ukrainians would try to take it back
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in Kiev they are telling the population to start making molotov cocktails

Russian troops are inside the city
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From the little I understand of nuclear detonations, there’s no way the elephants foot can explode. It’s mixed together concrete, reactor parts, and low-enriched reactor fuel.

I think nukes require much higher grade stuff to explode…
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this Ukrainian government is pretty fascistic actually

not a meme

they are telling people to die for the Fuhrer now basically

save President Zelensky from Putin

at literally any cost

like the fall of Berlin to the Soviets
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SuburbanFarmer wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:21 pm From the little I understand of nuclear detonations, there’s no way the elephants foot can explode. It’s mixed together concrete, reactor parts, and low-enriched reactor fuel.

I think nukes require much higher grade stuff to explode…
okay good

that had me worried there for a minute
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I looked it up

it says it could have another "catastrophic explosion"

I misread that as meaning critical mass

it would still be a huge dirty bomb tho, sending another radioactive plume across Europe

it's smouldering uranium right now, getting hotter lately
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Smitty-48 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:26 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:21 pm From the little I understand of nuclear detonations, there’s no way the elephants foot can explode. It’s mixed together concrete, reactor parts, and low-enriched reactor fuel.

I think nukes require much higher grade stuff to explode…
okay good

that had me worried there for a minute
It can certainly spray radiation around, just not go into the fission chain reaction. I think they hit some part of the waste containment building yesterday.

But most of the complex is still an active power plant. That’s why Russia went for it.
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plus the Russians do have to match DEFCON 3

but they don't have DEFCON really

the Dead Hand would just be switched on now
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SuburbanFarmer wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:33 pm
Smitty-48 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:26 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:21 pm From the little I understand of nuclear detonations, there’s no way the elephants foot can explode. It’s mixed together concrete, reactor parts, and low-enriched reactor fuel.

I think nukes require much higher grade stuff to explode…
okay good

that had me worried there for a minute
It can certainly spray radiation around, just not go into the fission chain reaction. I think they hit some part of the waste containment building yesterday.

But most of the complex is still an active power plant. That’s why Russia went for it.
they have to have control of that radioactive material

in your guerilla war scenario the Ukrainians could weaponize it

I don't know how concerned the Russians are about saving power plants

since they just blew one up in another part of Ukraine with tactical ballistic missile
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appears the Russians are actually using their Iskander tactical ballistic missiles

GLONASS guided with conventional warheads
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