Meanwhile in Ukraine

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SuburbanFarmer wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:52 pm
Smitty-48 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:50 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:46 pm

That’s something vaguely terrifying. If Poland goes Leroy Jenkins and attacks Russia, is article V invoked as soon as they are shot at?
grey area

no man's land in between
I would think that’s a pretty key part of your global alliance structure. That can’t possibly be a grey area…
NATO was formed as an entirely defensive alliance

there is no clause in the Washington Treaty which accounts for a NATO member going on the offensive

a NATO member attacking Russia then being counterattacked ?

the technical term for that would be Pandora's Box
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C-Mag wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:53 pm No one respects the US right now.
The Beltway convinced themselves they could leave Afghanistan haphazardly, leave equipment and personnel behind, and let Americans get killed in the withdrawl with no repercussions.

They convinced themselves that they could manage the empire with geriatric retard at the helm, because hey, they got through Trump.

But that shit doesn't wash.
The US asked China to help stop the invasion.
The Chinese gave US intelligence to the Russians.
Doesn't wash with Dudes.

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Smitty-48 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:00 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:52 pm
Smitty-48 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:50 pm
grey area

no man's land in between
I would think that’s a pretty key part of your global alliance structure. That can’t possibly be a grey area…
NATO was formed as an entirely defensive alliance

there is no clause in the Washington Treaty which accounts for a NATO member going on the offensive

a NATO member attacking Russia then being counterattacked ?

the technical term for that would be Pandora's Box
Maybe, but I suspect if a single Russian soldier sets foot in Poland NATO will respond with military force. Russia seems to only be interested in prevent NATO expansion, not starting a war with NATO.
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TheOneX wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:08 pm
Smitty-48 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:00 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:52 pm

I would think that’s a pretty key part of your global alliance structure. That can’t possibly be a grey area…
NATO was formed as an entirely defensive alliance

there is no clause in the Washington Treaty which accounts for a NATO member going on the offensive

a NATO member attacking Russia then being counterattacked ?

the technical term for that would be Pandora's Box
Maybe, but I suspect if a single Russian soldier sets foot in Poland NATO will respond with military force. Russia seems to only be interested in prevent NATO expansion, not starting a war with NATO.
what if Russia sunk a Polish ship in international waters ?

what if Russia conducted covert hybrid war against Poland under false flag ?

Russia is not backing down to NATO

if they were doing that, we wouldn't be where we are

if you think Putin is afraid of NATO ?

I think you are mistaken
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I would say that Putin is very confident that NATO is a paper tiger

and if NATO invokes Article V, that will simply incite the immediate collapse of NATO
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“NATO Response Force” activated for the first time. 40k troops to Eastern Europe.
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never mind going to war against Russia

Germany & Italy have refused to even kick Russia out of the SWIFT international banking system

NATO is fake news

NATO is dead man walking

all that is left, is for it to be officially exposed as being toothless

then it flies apart, every man for himself
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SuburbanFarmer wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:15 pm 40k troops to Eastern Europe.
to do what ?
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Smitty-48 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:22 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:15 pm 40k troops to Eastern Europe.
to do what ?
Not a clue. Just something you’d be interested in lol
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the whole point of this Russian operation

is to expose NATO as being a toothless paper tiger

what are they going to do ?

the elites in the west are going to risk thermonuclear annihilation ?

yeah right

they ain't gonna do shit

the Russians are way too fucking scary to mess with at that level

you could set the Russians off just by accident, if you even jar them too vigorously

the rich people who run the west are not prepared to die for anything
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