Meanwhile in Ukraine

Smitty-48
Posts: 36399
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:22 am

Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 »

that being said

I don't expect NATO to fight

if they try, the alliance will break down into factions

so NATO backing down and negotiating in the face of Escalation Dominance seems the most likely scenario
Nec Aspera Terrent
Smitty-48
Posts: 36399
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:22 am

Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 »

the existential danger I see is more Russia related unto itself

if this spirals out of Putin's control

if he comes under threat at home

if the Kremlin is under siege in Moscow

okay, then he might do something desperate

that is where things could get really hot
Nec Aspera Terrent
User avatar
SilverEagle
Posts: 2433
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:07 am

Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SilverEagle »

Smitty-48 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:12 am that being said

I don't expect NATO to fight

if they try, the alliance will break down into factions

so NATO backing down and negotiating in the face of Escalation Dominance seems the most likely scenario
Putin knew how that would play out before he sent troops to the border. NATO leaders are pussies and Biden is a fucking potato…..so yup.
There is a time for good men to do bad things.

For fuck sake, 1984 is NOT an instruction manual!

:character-bowser: __________ :character-mario: :character-luigi:
Smitty-48
Posts: 36399
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:22 am

Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 »

SilverEagle wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:16 am
Smitty-48 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:12 am that being said

I don't expect NATO to fight

if they try, the alliance will break down into factions

so NATO backing down and negotiating in the face of Escalation Dominance seems the most likely scenario
Putin knew how that would play out before he sent troops to the border. NATO leaders are pussies and Biden is a fucking potato…..so yup.
there is existential danger on the NATO side none the less

not so much that Brussels goes to war with the Kremlin

but rather if NATO countries in the east, led by Poland

breakaway from NATO and go to war without Article V being invoked
Nec Aspera Terrent
Smitty-48
Posts: 36399
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:22 am

Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 »

is Poland really going to let their proxy in Kiev fall ?

while Poland does nothing ?

is Poland really going to sit still for this ?

or might Poland decide that NATO is useless and they need to take action on their own ?

that is the vector I am watching for now

Nec Aspera Terrent
Smitty-48
Posts: 36399
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:22 am

Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 »

Russia is not the Soviets

Russia is not that big

Poland is not that small in the face of them

Russia might be able to take Ukraine down easily enough

Poland on the other hand, that is a serious problem for the Kremlin

especially if Poland formed a Contact Group

with Ukraine, Romania, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland & Sweden

then you would see the fur fly methinks

Nec Aspera Terrent
User avatar
C-Mag
Posts: 28382
Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:48 pm

Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag »

Justin Trudeau is jealous that Putin is stealing his authoritarian spotlight
PLATA O PLOMO


Image


Don't fear authority, Fear Obedience
User avatar
C-Mag
Posts: 28382
Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:48 pm

Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag »

Russian armored vehicle runs over a car
https://gab.com/VitoBoscaino/posts/107860031686944683

Ukrainian Soldiers burning documents
https://gab.com/Cynthia_Holt/posts/107860025394677417
PLATA O PLOMO


Image


Don't fear authority, Fear Obedience
User avatar
Haumana
Posts: 4195
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:48 am

Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Haumana »

TheOneX wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:09 am
Haumana wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 10:29 am Dude language is what is missing on a global scale. Toxic masculinity is a horseshit misnomer. Naa, this is just how shit gets done ultimately. Martin's recounting of 5th grade locker room shit is really still what drives the vehicle. The rubber has to meet the road at some point and here we are. All of this namby pamby bullshit is not going to override evolution. Dudes don't have a uterus, no matter how much make up and hair that they put on themselves they can't make it true. Apex predators will still take the best part of the kill. Ultimately, when all the bullshit is boiled away, might does make right. It is the very basis of why people willingly pay their taxes. No one really wants the weight of the State, and their impunity to shoot you on the spot, bearing down on them.
What is the difference between government and the mafia?
More shit written down?
Smitty-48
Posts: 36399
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:22 am

Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 »

TheOneX wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:09 am
What is the difference between government and the mafia?
the mafia follows its own rules and/or kills those within its ranks who fail to do so
Nec Aspera Terrent