Coronavirus thread

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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by Zlaxer » Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:23 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:46 am
The BBC can reveal that more than a third of 26 major trials of the drug for use on Covid have serious errors or signs of potential fraud. None of the rest show convincing evidence of ivermectin's effectiveness.

Dr Kyle Sheldrick, one of the group investigating the studies, said they had not found "a single clinical trial" claiming to show that ivermectin prevented Covid deaths that did not contain "either obvious signs of fabrication or errors so critical they invalidate the study".

Major problems included:

The same patient data being used multiple times for supposedly different people
Evidence that selection of patients for test groups was not random
Numbers unlikely to occur naturally
Percentages calculated incorrectly
Local health bodies unaware of the studies
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58170809

https://gizmodo.com/ivermectin-research ... 1847730533
https://www.entornointeligente.com/07/1 ... -children/
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... nformation
Thanks for the articles - BBC and Guardian are suspect sources in my book (given their blatant biases), but the underlying studies might be good.

The question I want to know is can anyone explain India? were the linked studies ivermercitn on it's own or in combination with something else?

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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by The Conservative » Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:29 am

Zlaxer wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:23 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:46 am
The BBC can reveal that more than a third of 26 major trials of the drug for use on Covid have serious errors or signs of potential fraud. None of the rest show convincing evidence of ivermectin's effectiveness.

Dr Kyle Sheldrick, one of the group investigating the studies, said they had not found "a single clinical trial" claiming to show that ivermectin prevented Covid deaths that did not contain "either obvious signs of fabrication or errors so critical they invalidate the study".

Major problems included:

The same patient data being used multiple times for supposedly different people
Evidence that selection of patients for test groups was not random
Numbers unlikely to occur naturally
Percentages calculated incorrectly
Local health bodies unaware of the studies
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58170809

https://gizmodo.com/ivermectin-research ... 1847730533
https://www.entornointeligente.com/07/1 ... -children/
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... nformation
Thanks for the articles - BBC and Guardian are suspect sources in my book (given their blatant biases), but the underlying studies might be good.

The question I want to know is can anyone explain India? were the linked studies ivermercitn on it's own or in combination with something else?
That's always the fly in their argument ointment. They can't explain it.
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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:22 am

Clinical results > structured studies every time.

You can shoot holes into any number of ‘studies’ with procedural pedantry. Results speak loudly.
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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by C-Mag » Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:32 am

My in laws, who are Covidians, and have spent the last 18 months worshipping Fauci, just got COVID for the second time.

They strictly did everything they were told. Now they are pissed, and now questioning what all the effort was for.
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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by The Conservative » Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:36 am

C-Mag wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:32 am
My in laws, who are Covidians, and have spent the last 18 months worshipping Fauci, just got COVID for the second time.

They strictly did everything they were told. Now they are pissed, and now questioning what all the effort was for.
Your inlaws are the reason we are like we are, the ones that bow down to the will of the government... it's scary how easy it is to fall into that trap and then realize you screwed yourself over...
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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:15 am

Zlaxer wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:23 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:46 am
The BBC can reveal that more than a third of 26 major trials of the drug for use on Covid have serious errors or signs of potential fraud. None of the rest show convincing evidence of ivermectin's effectiveness.

Dr Kyle Sheldrick, one of the group investigating the studies, said they had not found "a single clinical trial" claiming to show that ivermectin prevented Covid deaths that did not contain "either obvious signs of fabrication or errors so critical they invalidate the study".

Major problems included:

The same patient data being used multiple times for supposedly different people
Evidence that selection of patients for test groups was not random
Numbers unlikely to occur naturally
Percentages calculated incorrectly
Local health bodies unaware of the studies
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58170809

https://gizmodo.com/ivermectin-research ... 1847730533
https://www.entornointeligente.com/07/1 ... -children/
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... nformation
Thanks for the articles - BBC and Guardian are suspect sources in my book (given their blatant biases), but the underlying studies might be good.

The question I want to know is can anyone explain India? were the linked studies ivermercitn on it's own or in combination with something else?
My understanding is that the Indian studies had problems with the placebo group since so many people in India are taking ivermectin over the counter. The results are compromised if your control group is already taking the drug you are trying to test.
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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:23 am

WTF?! If the control group was already taking the drug then there wouldn't be any difference between the 2 groups, and Ivermectin would be proven ineffective.

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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by C-Mag » Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:34 am

The Conservative wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:36 am
C-Mag wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:32 am
My in laws, who are Covidians, and have spent the last 18 months worshipping Fauci, just got COVID for the second time.

They strictly did everything they were told. Now they are pissed, and now questioning what all the effort was for.
Your inlaws are the reason we are like we are, the ones that bow down to the will of the government... it's scary how easy it is to fall into that trap and then realize you screwed yourself over...

I think I'm going to be crucial in their red pilling, without saying a word. If they haven't already, they will look at my unmasked, unvaxxed, non compliant ass and question their adherence to the propaganda.
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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by C-Mag » Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:36 am

Ivermectin is effective against COVID.
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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by The Conservative » Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:14 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:15 am
Zlaxer wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:23 am
Thanks for the articles - BBC and Guardian are suspect sources in my book (given their blatant biases), but the underlying studies might be good.

The question I want to know is can anyone explain India? were the linked studies ivermercitn on it's own or in combination with something else?
My understanding is that the Indian studies had problems with the placebo group since so many people in India are taking ivermectin over the counter. The results are compromised if your control group is already taking the drug you are trying to test.
A near 80% reduction of death from COVID cannot be denied... it may have "problems" but the real-world effect and proof state it works, it doesn't matter what modern medical agencies say... the proof is in the pudding...
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