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StCapps
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by StCapps » Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:06 am
Montegriffo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:42 am
C-Mag wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:36 pm
Montegriffo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:19 pm
I've always said that mass protests and rallies during a pandemic are a bad idea.
As are bike rallies, spring break parties and crowded sporting events.
Since when did you start thinking for yourself and stop listening to the ruling class ?
When I was about 5 and stopped shutting my eyes, holding my hands together and praying like all the other sheep at school.
yeah, you're above buying into that religious "crap" like everyone else
you're no sheep, you think for yourself, praise Gaia
this nigguh
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*yip*
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Hanarchy Montanarchy
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by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:15 am
?
For a meta analysis of "Randomized Controlled Trials" you get a range of
25%-
96% for prophylaxis and a
2%-
50% range for late treatment.
I'd expect the same range of effects for homeopathy!
HAIL!
Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
-Hwen
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Zlaxer
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by Zlaxer » Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:49 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:15 am
?
For a meta analysis of "Randomized Controlled Trials" you get a range of
25%-
96% for prophylaxis and a
2%-
50% range for late treatment.
I'd expect the same range of effects for homeopathy!
I suspect the numbers are better for the "cocktail" many hospitals are using now - antibodies, Remdesavere (or however its spelled), Icemtheron (too lazy to look up spelling), etc. Does anyone have a study for this?
BTW, the infection rate for Delta where I am (apparently worst in the nation) is 745/100K. That's 0.00745 chance of even getting infected - unless the local news made a mistake in their slides last night...and we want to inject 2 year olds with an experimental vax (shown to sometime cause heart failure in males) why again?
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Hanarchy Montanarchy
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by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:56 am
Zlaxer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:49 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:15 am
?
For a meta analysis of "Randomized Controlled Trials" you get a range of
25%-
96% for prophylaxis and a
2%-
50% range for late treatment.
I'd expect the same range of effects for homeopathy!
I suspect the numbers are better for the "cocktail" many hospitals are using now - antibodies, Remdesavere (or however its spelled), Icemtheron (too lazy to look up spelling), etc. Does anyone have a study for this?
BTW, the infection rate for Delta where I am (apparently worst in the nation) is 745/100K. That's 0.00745 chance of even getting infected - unless the local news made a mistake in their slides last night...and we want to inject 2 year olds with an experimental vax (shown to sometime cause heart failure in males) why again?
I suspect you're right.... which is why the FDA didn't approve universal boosters.
As a healthy adult, though, I'll say this: if you offered me a mRNA shot in 2018 that would protect me from the flu I'd take it. I got shit to do, and being laid out with the flu fucks with my money.
This is a limited efficacy cold-vax - nothing more, nothing less.
HAIL!
Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
-Hwen
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The Conservative
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by The Conservative » Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:20 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:56 am
Zlaxer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:49 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:15 am
?
For a meta analysis of "Randomized Controlled Trials" you get a range of
25%-
96% for prophylaxis and a
2%-
50% range for late treatment.
I'd expect the same range of effects for homeopathy!
I suspect the numbers are better for the "cocktail" many hospitals are using now - antibodies, Remdesavere (or however its spelled), Icemtheron (too lazy to look up spelling), etc. Does anyone have a study for this?
BTW, the infection rate for Delta where I am (apparently worst in the nation) is 745/100K. That's 0.00745 chance of even getting infected - unless the local news made a mistake in their slides last night...and we want to inject 2 year olds with an experimental vax (shown to sometime cause heart failure in males) why again?
I suspect you're right.... which is why the FDA didn't approve universal boosters.
As a healthy adult, though, I'll say this: if you offered me a mRNA shot in 2018 that would protect me from the flu I'd take it. I got shit to do, and being laid out with the flu fucks with my money.
This is a limited efficacy cold-vax - nothing more, nothing less.
Can we stop calling it a vaccine, please?
It isn't one. If anything it's an inhibitor with a high failure rate.
#NotOneRedCent
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Hanarchy Montanarchy
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by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:35 am
limited efficacy cold-inhibitor
Are you happy now, retard?
HAIL!
Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
-Hwen
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The Conservative
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by The Conservative » Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:10 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:35 am
limited efficacy cold-inhibitor
Are you happy now, retard?
Small Pox Vaccine, Polio Vaccine... I can go in.
This is not a vaccine, this is a stopgap and at best a way to control the population by voluntary elimination.
#NotOneRedCent
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Hanarchy Montanarchy
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by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:13 am
The Conservative wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:10 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:35 am
limited efficacy cold-inhibitor
Are you happy now, retard?
Small Pox Vaccine, Polio Vaccine... I can go in.
This is not a vaccine, this is a stopgap and at best a way to control the population by voluntary elimination.
lest I be accused of bandwagon-ing, I'll just say:
k
HAIL!
Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
-Hwen
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SuburbanFarmer
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by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:17 am
Montegriffo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:43 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:40 pm
Montegriffo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:04 pm
So post the clinical trials supporting the use of Ivermectin for covid.
Since you're all about the science now...
There are actually a ton, if you’re serious. lol
So show them.
These guys have put together a ton of work on it:
https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermec ... vermectin/
Also, India started using ivermectin a couple months ago and nearly wiped out covid.
Re safety: ivermectin won the Nobel prize in 2015, and is one of the safest medicines ever created.
Better explanations can be found on the dark horse podcast - 2 PhD biologists discussing it weekly. Or on YouTube, see Peak Prosperity. Another PhD that’s all over it since the beginning.
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TheOneX
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by TheOneX » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:20 am
The simple truth when it comes to this medical treatment is we did everything wrong.
1. If you are going to attempt to create a vaccine for a novel virus you need to have a decent understanding of what the novel virus does to the human body. When these attempted vaccines were first created we knew basically nothing about what the novel virus does to the human body, and as of today we still have a poor understanding.
2a. If you are going to mass treat the population you better understand the potential risks and risk factors of that treatment. At this point in time, we pretty much still do not know the full extent of the risks and risk factors. It is literally impossible for someone to give informed consent on taking the treatment because the information we would need to know in order to give informed consent is either not known or is being withheld/covered up.
2b. If you are going to mass treat the population without understanding the potential risks, you need to be meticulous about reporting potential adverse side-effects. So if there is a trend of adverse-effects you can react quickly to stop the treatments, and research the cause of the adverse-effects to hopefully prevent future adverse-effects in others.
3. If you cannot show that your treatment will end the pandemic you should not mandate that treatment in order to end a pandemic. The simple truth is this treatment does not prevent the spread of the infection, and therefore is incapable of ending the pandemic. If the treatment could prevent 90% of spread, then maybe there would be an argument, but you would still need to be able to complete number 2 before we even get there.