Did you get the shot?

Did you get the shot?

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No
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Smitty-48
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Re: Did you get the shot?

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:52 am

myself personally, once again, I pretty much see eye to eye with Tucker Carlson

in that I agree that Social Credit based on vaccine status is used as a political cudgel

but like Tucker, I don't subscribe to that, someone's vaccine status is not a morality issue to me

in terms of people being fired for not being vaccinated ?

actually, I think an employer has the negative right to fire you for that

you have the negative right not to get vaccinated, but there is no positive right to employment

it's like in the army, they couldn't actually order me to get vaccinated, I could have refused

but then they could have cancelled my contract and sent me back to civvy street, which, fair enough

I always see it from the point of view of me being the employer

would I put up with some employee saying he wasn't getting vaxxed, but I couldn't fire him for that ?

of course not, as the employer, I decide the requirements for the job

and I do not support unions, I would be a union buster if I had enough employees on the payroll
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Re: Did you get the shot?

Post by Xenophon » Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:59 am

I've run into the job or jab issue recently.

My workplace has said that if the federal mandate is enforced, they'll enforce it willingly. We have a lot of petty tyrants here, masquerading as empathetic people who "care."

I told my boss yesterday that I held deep convictions regarding this vaccine mandate, and any attempts to force me to take it would end with me leaving. I told him I didn't want to leave, but that I was prepared to for the sake of my convictions.

He told me he wouldn't let that happen, and that I didn't have anything to worry about.

Feels good, man.

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Re: Did you get the shot?

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:02 am

Xenophon wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:59 am
I've run into the job or jab issue recently.

My workplace has said that if the federal mandate is enforced, they'll enforce it willingly. We have a lot of petty tyrants here, masquerading as empathetic people who "care."

I told my boss yesterday that I held deep convictions regarding this vaccine mandate, and any attempts to force me to take it would end with me leaving. I told him I didn't want to leave, but that I was prepared to for the sake of my convictions.

He told me he wouldn't let that happen, and that I didn't have anything to worry about.

Feels good, man.
in the case of a Christian religious exemption, I would accept that as an employer

I'm on the right with the land owning God fearing Patriarchy, and I would protect Christians therein

it still might limit what work I could use you for, but I would find a role where vaccination wasn't required\

it cuts both ways tho, because "my body my choice" is clearly not the Christian position
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Re: Did you get the shot?

Post by pineapplemike » Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:05 am

if i was an employer i would tell the feds to suck it

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Re: Did you get the shot?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:08 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:43 am
In my recent recognition that the Left and the Right are both authoritarian while liberty, which is anti-authoritarian, is in the middle, both sides see me as the enemy. I have no constituency: I will never be elected to anything, and fame is a lightning bolt.
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Re: Did you get the shot?

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:08 am

pineapplemike wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:05 am
if i was an employer i would tell the feds to suck it
realistically, these are not the sort of positions you can take as an employer, nor as a property owner

if you're going to be a rebel, then you're not going to be able to run a business, nor own a property

there is no escaping the government, unless you are a bachelor college student or something like that
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Martin Hash
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Re: Did you get the shot?

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:08 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:43 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:41 am
"I'm Far Right or Far Left depending on who you ask." - me
I just go by the ideology being invoked

the forum is clearly swinging to the side of the Social Credit leftists

in that there is a purity spiral in play

where those who do not strictly adhere to Antivax are decried as "surrender monkeys" or what have you

that is the politics of the left, that's the tactics of the Woke
And it works exceptionally well: have you noticed how completely we were defeated? I'm not above using the successful tactics of my enemy.
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Re: Did you get the shot?

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:12 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:08 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:43 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:41 am
"I'm Far Right or Far Left depending on who you ask." - me
I just go by the ideology being invoked

the forum is clearly swinging to the side of the Social Credit leftists

in that there is a purity spiral in play

where those who do not strictly adhere to Antivax are decried as "surrender monkeys" or what have you

that is the politics of the left, that's the tactics of the Woke
And it works exceptionally well: have you noticed how completely we were defeated? I'm not above using the successful tactics of my enemy.
fair enough, but I don't actually think it's working

the right is being divided & conquered by leftist style purity tests, to the advantage of the left
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Re: Did you get the shot?

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:13 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:12 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:08 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:43 am


I just go by the ideology being invoked

the forum is clearly swinging to the side of the Social Credit leftists

in that there is a purity spiral in play

where those who do not strictly adhere to Antivax are decried as "surrender monkeys" or what have you

that is the politics of the left, that's the tactics of the Woke
And it works exceptionally well: have you noticed how completely we were defeated? I'm not above using the successful tactics of my enemy.
fair enough, but I don't actually think it's working

the right is being divided & conquered by leftist style purity tests, to the advantage of the left
The "Left" is women. A penis is binary.
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Re: Did you get the shot?

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:16 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:13 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:12 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:08 am

And it works exceptionally well: have you noticed how completely we were defeated? I'm not above using the successful tactics of my enemy.
fair enough, but I don't actually think it's working

the right is being divided & conquered by leftist style purity tests, to the advantage of the left
The "Left" is women. A penis is binary.
well, again, I think purity spirals are effeminate, so I counsel against adopting the ways of the women

that surrenders the main advantage of the men, which was not giving a fuck about that sort of thing
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