THE ERA OF TRUMP

[The Conservative]

the principle benefit of Trump is as an agent provocateur inciting the Establishment to bear their fangs

but in terms of permanent legislative effects, Trump was a nothing burger in of himself

it's not like he got the PATRIOT Act repealed, in fact he went and doubled down on that sort of thing

then they used it against him, so he shot himself in the foot

he threw the populists under the bus and hired the Neocons ; Mattis, McMaster & Kelly

Trump ran as a populist, but once elected turned into a conventional Neocon GOP POTUS

I said that was going to happen back in 2016, which is why I didn't endorse him

I wasn't expecting the TDS to be so extreme, but that was more of a side benefit, it didn't change the laws

now that Trump has failed to get reelected, the Democrats have overthrown his agenda easily

he didn't produce results which would give him the landslide win that he needed

he vastly over promised and under delivered

Wow, it's almost like you have ignored the majority of what is going on in this forum...

But Biden is whataboutism

I've always hated that term...

[Smitty-48]

Wow, it's almost like you have ignored the majority of what is going on in this forum...

I don't see much going on here

its a tiny handful of guys on the internet griping about things beyond their control

/shrugs

[StCapps]

Wow, it's almost like you have ignored the majority of what is going on in this forum...

But Biden is whataboutism

I've always hated that term...

probably because you don't like being called out on making those type of bad arguments

[Smitty-48]

to be clear, I'm just here to hang out with some bros from the DCF and keep Marty Hash company

I am not in the mix in terms of the elections in America

since I am not a resident at this time, I stay out of it

if I was living in the USA, I would vote for Trump, but only as the least worst option

I pretty much see eye to eye with Tucker Carlson

I'm not a populist, I'm not a working class Joe, but I do understand why they vote for Trump

[The Conservative]

But Biden is whataboutism

I've always hated that term...

probably because you don't like being called out on making those type of bad arguments

No, I thought it was a blanket excuse to not debate.

[Smitty-48]

I've always hated that term...

probably because you don't like being called out on making those type of bad arguments

No, I thought it was a blanket excuse to not debate.

a debate requires agreed to rules and a referee

there is no debates on this forum, nobody is ever convinced, nobody ever concedes, nothing is ever proven

if you can't prove something, then debate is a fool's errand, since proof is the point of argument

what goes on here is not actually argument, it's basically just ad hom fallacies getting thrown around

doesn't bother me, but as soon as that starts, I will just jack the thread and blow it up

[The Conservative]

probably because you don't like being called out on making those type of bad arguments

No, I thought it was a blanket excuse to not debate.

a debate requires agreed to rules and a referee

there is no debates on this forum, nobody is ever convinced, nobody ever concedes, nothing is ever proven

if you can't prove something, then debate is a fool's errand, since proof is the point of argument

what goes on here is not actually argument, it's basically just ad hom fallacies getting thrown around

Then you miss the entire point of this forum. In that case, I feel sorry for you.

The only person that has the final say is Martin, and honestly, if you can't argue your point, you will never change minds.

[Smitty-48]

No, I thought it was a blanket excuse to not debate.

a debate requires agreed to rules and a referee

there is no debates on this forum, nobody is ever convinced, nobody ever concedes, nothing is ever proven

if you can't prove something, then debate is a fool's errand, since proof is the point of argument

what goes on here is not actually argument, it's basically just ad hom fallacies getting thrown around

Then you miss the entire point of this forum. In that case, I feel sorry for you.

if this forum is that central to your life, that's your business, but that has nothing to do with me

It's just an internet forum, I'm just here to hang out with some bros from the DCF, no more, no less

[StCapps]

what goes on here is not actually argument, it's basically just ad hom fallacies getting thrown around

doesn't bother me, but as soon as that starts, I will just jack the thread and blow it up

[The Conservative]

a debate requires agreed to rules and a referee

there is no debates on this forum, nobody is ever convinced, nobody ever concedes, nothing is ever proven

if you can't prove something, then debate is a fool's errand, since proof is the point of argument

what goes on here is not actually argument, it's basically just ad hom fallacies getting thrown around

Then you miss the entire point of this forum. In that case, I feel sorry for you.

if this forum is that central to your life, that's your business, but that has nothing to do with me

It's just an internet forum, I'm just here to hang out with some bros from the DCF, no more, no less

Says the person that has nearly three times my posts here... Kettle is that you...?