FUCK THE PRC

[SuburbanFarmer]

When dealing with an insecure braggart, public humiliation is the most devastating option.

Just make them look like idiots, and they’ll collapse. Expose them as tech copycats, and their human rights record.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

If China is so superior how come they've had a civilization since the dawn of time - and are just now crawling out of their rice fields?

They peaked in the 13th century when rice and bureaucracy were cutting edge tech.

Credit where credit is due, they did those the best.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

When dealing with an insecure braggart, public humiliation is the most devastating option.

Just make them look like idiots, and they’ll collapse. Expose them as tech copycats, and their human rights record.

Everyone has known they are tech copycats with a horrible human rights record for decades. They don't care, so that can't be leveraged against them.

It is the same stupidity as press secretary Psaki thinking that that Taliban gives a shit what role they play in 'the international community.'

[SuburbanFarmer]

When dealing with an insecure braggart, public humiliation is the most devastating option.

Just make them look like idiots, and they’ll collapse. Expose them as tech copycats, and their human rights record.

Everyone has known they are tech copycats with a horrible human rights record for decades. They don't care, so that can't be leveraged against them.

It is the same stupidity as press secretary Psaki thinking that that Taliban gives a shit what role they play in 'the international community.'

Somewhat different, as the Taliban aren’t presenting themselves as a new global power... They aren’t hosting olympics or holding war games any time soon.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

When dealing with an insecure braggart, public humiliation is the most devastating option.

Just make them look like idiots, and they’ll collapse. Expose them as tech copycats, and their human rights record.

Everyone has known they are tech copycats with a horrible human rights record for decades. They don't care, so that can't be leveraged against them.

It is the same stupidity as press secretary Psaki thinking that that Taliban gives a shit what role they play in 'the international community.'

Somewhat different, as the Taliban aren’t presenting themselves as a new global power... They aren’t hosting olympics or holding war games any time soon.

The point is that you can't use something as leverage that the leveraged doesn't give a shit about. That's just sort of how leverage works.

China does not give a shit if the rest of the world knows they are stealing tech and committing human right's atrocities. They do care if their trading partners are pealed away and they start running out of ways to grow their economy and prop up their regime.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Everyone has known they are tech copycats with a horrible human rights record for decades. They don't care, so that can't be leveraged against them.

It is the same stupidity as press secretary Psaki thinking that that Taliban gives a shit what role they play in 'the international community.'

Somewhat different, as the Taliban aren’t presenting themselves as a new global power... They aren’t hosting olympics or holding war games any time soon.

The point is that you can't use something as leverage that the leveraged doesn't give a shit about. That's just sort of how leverage works.

China does not give a shit if the rest of the world knows they are stealing tech and committing human right's atrocities. They do care if their trading partners are pealed away and they start running out of ways to grow their economy and prop up their regime.

See, I think we could have crushed them a long time ago. They just paid off enough middlemen to buy immunity for a while.

If we really went to town and exposed who they are, there would be few trading powers left. We’ve already seen how they react to minor insults.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Somewhat different, as the Taliban aren’t presenting themselves as a new global power... They aren’t hosting olympics or holding war games any time soon.

The point is that you can't use something as leverage that the leveraged doesn't give a shit about. That's just sort of how leverage works.

China does not give a shit if the rest of the world knows they are stealing tech and committing human right's atrocities. They do care if their trading partners are pealed away and they start running out of ways to grow their economy and prop up their regime.

See, I think we could have crushed them a long time ago. They just paid off enough middlemen to buy immunity for a while.

If we really went to town and exposed who they are, there would be few trading powers left. We’ve already seen how they react to minor insults.

You are thinking about the Chinese through an American lens. We respond to being made to look like foolish idiots by attacking our government and leadership because we view ourselves as citizens, with a government responsible to us.

The Chinese (at least the Han majority that isn't being actively repressed) will respond by closing ranks and defending their government because they are, essentially, subjects. The majority of mainland China is not like Hong Kong or Taiwan - they will not turn against the CCP, and neither will Beijing's trading partners unless there is a better option for them - an option the West will have to provide through multilateral trade agreements.

You simply can not 'expose' or 'embarrass' the CCP out of existence.

[SuburbanFarmer]

The point is that you can't use something as leverage that the leveraged doesn't give a shit about. That's just sort of how leverage works.

China does not give a shit if the rest of the world knows they are stealing tech and committing human right's atrocities. They do care if their trading partners are pealed away and they start running out of ways to grow their economy and prop up their regime.

See, I think we could have crushed them a long time ago. They just paid off enough middlemen to buy immunity for a while.

If we really went to town and exposed who they are, there would be few trading powers left. We’ve already seen how they react to minor insults.

You are thinking about the Chinese through an American lens. We respond to being made to look like foolish idiots by attacking our government and leadership because we view ourselves as citizens, with a government responsible to us.

The Chinese (at least the Han majority that isn't being actively repressed) will respond by closing ranks and defending their government because they are, essentially, subjects. The majority of mainland China is not like Hong Kong or Taiwan - they will not turn against the CCP, and neither will Beijing's trading partners unless there is a better option for them - an option the West will have to provide through multilateral trade agreements.

You simply can not 'expose' or 'embarrass' the CCP out of existence.

Every time the CCP has felt slighted, they instantly retaliate by trying to shift attention, or flailing about for an excuse. The government is illegitimate (and yes I realize the irony here), and is only in place because they block the internet and news.

Imagine the effect if we simply unblocked it for them. Broadcast Elon’s star link into their territory for free, and sit back.

[Martin Hash]

Feminists, minorities & weirdos would take over there too.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

See, I think we could have crushed them a long time ago. They just paid off enough middlemen to buy immunity for a while.

If we really went to town and exposed who they are, there would be few trading powers left. We’ve already seen how they react to minor insults.

You are thinking about the Chinese through an American lens. We respond to being made to look like foolish idiots by attacking our government and leadership because we view ourselves as citizens, with a government responsible to us.

The Chinese (at least the Han majority that isn't being actively repressed) will respond by closing ranks and defending their government because they are, essentially, subjects. The majority of mainland China is not like Hong Kong or Taiwan - they will not turn against the CCP, and neither will Beijing's trading partners unless there is a better option for them - an option the West will have to provide through multilateral trade agreements.

You simply can not 'expose' or 'embarrass' the CCP out of existence.

Every time the CCP has felt slighted, they instantly retaliate by trying to shift attention, or flailing about for an excuse. The government is illegitimate (and yes I realize the irony here), and is only in place because they block the internet and news.

Imagine the effect if we simply unblocked it for them. Broadcast Elon’s star link into their territory for free, and sit back.

I can imagine the effect - in fact, I don't need to, since we have seen exactly what they would do.

1) Say this is just Western propaganda
2) Claim to be the victim of Western Imperialism
3) Clamp down on the tiny minority of critics and dissidents
4) Continue to enjoy majority mainland support by providing jobs and resources to the majority by building ghost cities

Star Link isn't going to bring down the CCP. Absolutely absurd. It is like believing that dropping pamphlets from planes will topple Communist autocrats. The mainland majorities do not give a shit. China's trading partners do not give a shit.