The Era of Biden

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Re: The Era of Biden

Post by C-Mag » Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:00 am

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Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:57 am
The CCP is smelling blood in the water.
From what happened in Afghanistan, those in Taiwan should perceive that once a war breaks out in the Straits, the island’s defense will collapse in hours and US military won’t come to help. As a result, the DPP will quickly surrender.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202108/1231636.shtml
Yes, everyone is, and the total dissapearence of any voice in the government on Afghanistan makes it look like no one is at the wheel.
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Re: The Era of Biden

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:01 am

I have a couple mates who were JTF2

they were pulling down constant counterleadership ops in Afghanistan, F3EAD

it's just that JTF2 is completely black, blacker than the CIA

the Canadian media reports practically nothing about JTF2 and they are told nothing

so you never hear about what JTF2 is doing

as opposed to JSOC where guys are writing tell all books about their missions

if a JTF2 guy did that, he could be charged with treason

there is no 1A in Canada
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Re: The Era of Biden

Post by C-Mag » Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:04 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:01 am

as opposed to JSOC where guys are writing tell all books about their missions
Yes.
Over the course of GWOT the US Spec Ops community went from quiet professionals to perfumed princes running the DOJ.
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Re: The Era of Biden

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:05 am

C-Mag wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:04 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:01 am

as opposed to JSOC where guys are writing tell all books about their missions
Yes.
Over the course of GWOT the US Spec Ops community went from quiet professionals to perfumed princes running the DOJ.
yeah, JSOC turned into an empire building operation

the original DELTA, from Vietnam before they were even official, that was the real deal

but after Eagle Claw the whole thing got spilled out into the media
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Re: The Era of Biden

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:11 am

like technically, 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment DELTA doesn't even exist

internally it is called the Combat Applications Group

DELTA is actually quite secretive compared to DEVGRU

but the SEAL's are hotdogs, so over the years they have spilled the beans on everything

Canada's JTF2 in contrast, is the most secretive SOF unit in the Western World

because there is no 1A in Canada, and the Canadian media is all state media
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Re: The Era of Biden

Post by C-Mag » Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:14 am

Everyone was fascinated with Spec Ops, and who wouldn't be, but the mistake was to center your strategy on it. So many troops and commanders were not allowed to take the fight to the enemy, because the politicians feared civilian casualties and the media. With JSOC, they could control all the information, everyone in power likes that, but it always comes down to a nameless infantryman with a rifle in his hand, standing on a piece of ground, proving he owns and controls that ground.

Spec Ops is great if you need to take Pegasus Bridge in the dark of night, but as a focus of strategy it sucks.
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Re: The Era of Biden

Post by C-Mag » Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:15 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:11 am
like technically, 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment DELTA doesn't even exist

internally it is called the Combat Applications Group

DELTA is actually quite secretive compared to DEVGRU

but the SEAL's are hotdogs, so over the years they have spilled the beans on everything

Canada's JTF2 in contrast, is the most secretive SOF unit in the Western World

because there is no 1A in Canada, and the Canadian media is all state media

Agree.
Delta has done a pretty good job at remaining quiet professionals.

Have you ever heard the Afghan account of Operation Red Wing, Marcus Latrell and all that ?
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Re: The Era of Biden

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:16 am

even my mates who were JTF2

even now that they are retired on civvy street

they still won't say much about it, they are always vague, holding the line on secrecy
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Re: The Era of Biden

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:17 am

C-Mag wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:15 am


Have you ever heard the Afghan account of Operation Red Wing, Marcus Latrell and all that ?
of course, because they made a cheesy movie about it

I mean, doesn't bother me, but that movie was embarrassing
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Re: The Era of Biden

Post by C-Mag » Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:17 am

Just In


President Biden
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United States government official
I will be addressing the nation on Afghanistan at 3:45 PM ET today.
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1427285626429353987

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