Communist Revolution Has Begun

[SuburbanFarmer]

My mother is very similar. Not terribly intelligent, though she used to be.

It’s hard to tolerate, but I still feel a duty to care for her. She’s kind of helpless in the face of The Madness.

[Hastur]

Perhaps nothing is more devastating to a leftist mother than raising a strong, independent son?
Kinda like how in the 50's no father wanted to raise a "sissy-boy" but reversed?

Grasping at straws here, but I may be on to something.

I see this a lot in my children and their friends. They are extremely cynical about all the woke stuff they get rammed down their throats in school and from the MSM. They joke about it and make memes. In school, they play along to get the grades. They need the grades to get to the life they want.
What do they want?
Wealth
Property
Status
Independence

[Hastur]

saving the planet > culture wars

The planet don't need saving. The planet will do fine. It's been through worse.

We might need to save human habitats, but that is for selfish reasons. Don't pretend you speak for the planet.

[Hastur]

I believe the guy lives on a capitalists farm, and never claimed superiority to anyone, nor has he wished death upon anyone - unlike the majority of the ‘helicopter fantasy’ posters here…

I also earn my rent through farm labour during harvest and threshing but apparently that doesn't count because I'm not paying tax on the exchange.

It's the same old dishonest tactics DSL used to employ.
Call you a hypocrite who is all talk no action and then when you explain all the things you do to minimize your impact they switch to calling you a virtue signaller. Next it's on to strawmanning about how you want everyone to live like you even though you've never said any such thing.
Meanwhile China are leading the world in manufacturing solar panels and other green technology and the US is still getting its knickers in a twist over a few shitty coalmining jobs in swing states.

China is leading the world in manufacturing solar panels because they have lots of cheap energy. The West is exporting coal to China, so that China can get cheap energy to make cheap solar panels. China then exports the panels to the West so that we can have expensive energy.
If there is a winner here, it's certainly not the environment.

[Montegriffo]

saving the planet > culture wars

The planet don't need saving. The planet will do fine. It's been through worse.

We might need to save human habitats, but that is for selfish reasons. Don't pretend you speak for the planet.

It's not just human habitat though is it?
It's the Oceans, rainforests, rivers, wetlands etc.
Just about the only habitat which is increasing is deserts.

[Hastur]

saving the planet > culture wars

The planet don't need saving. The planet will do fine. It's been through worse.

We might need to save human habitats, but that is for selfish reasons. Don't pretend you speak for the planet.

It's not just human habitat though is it?
It's the Oceans, rainforests, rivers, wetlands etc.
Just about the only habitat which is increasing is deserts.

The planet is not in danger. It will go on with or without us. Environmentalism is a selfish luxury. Only people who can afford it care about it. When people stop worrying about food, health, a decent place to live, security and education for their children, can they start caring about the environment.
What produces these things? A free capitalist market economy that continuously produces more and more with less and less is the only way if you want to arrive in a world where everyone can afford to care about the environment.

[TheReal_ND]

The planet don't need saving. The planet will do fine. It's been through worse.

We might need to save human habitats, but that is for selfish reasons. Don't pretend you speak for the planet.

It's not just human habitat though is it?
It's the Oceans, rainforests, rivers, wetlands etc.
Just about the only habitat which is increasing is deserts.

The planet is not in danger. It will go on with or without us. Environmentalism is a selfish luxury. Only people who can afford it care about it. When people stop worrying about food, health, a decent place to live, security and education for their children, can they start caring about the environment.
What produces these things? A free capitalist market economy that continuously produces more and more with less and less is the only way if you want to arrive in a world where everyone can afford to care about the environment.

Oh so that's why Africans, Indians and nearly every other race except Europeans treat the environment like shit. Maybe we should throw more money at them until they quit littering.

[Hastur]

It's not just human habitat though is it?
It's the Oceans, rainforests, rivers, wetlands etc.
Just about the only habitat which is increasing is deserts.

The planet is not in danger. It will go on with or without us. Environmentalism is a selfish luxury. Only people who can afford it care about it. When people stop worrying about food, health, a decent place to live, security and education for their children, can they start caring about the environment.
What produces these things? A free capitalist market economy that continuously produces more and more with less and less is the only way if you want to arrive in a world where everyone can afford to care about the environment.

Oh so that's why Africans, Indians and nearly every other race except Europeans treat the environment like shit. Maybe we should throw more money at them until they quit littering.

Pretty much, but throwing money at people will not get them out of poverty.

[StCapps]

It's not just human habitat though is it?
It's the Oceans, rainforests, rivers, wetlands etc.
Just about the only habitat which is increasing is deserts.

The planet is not in danger. It will go on with or without us. Environmentalism is a selfish luxury. Only people who can afford it care about it. When people stop worrying about food, health, a decent place to live, security and education for their children, can they start caring about the environment.
What produces these things? A free capitalist market economy that continuously produces more and more with less and less is the only way if you want to arrive in a world where everyone can afford to care about the environment.

Oh so that's why Africans, Indians and nearly every other race except Europeans treat the environment like shit. Maybe we should throw more money at them until they quit littering.

the white people didn't care either, until they had the luxury to care

high living standards are a helluva drug

can't create high living standards on a scale that big with government handouts

but yeah once they get rich, all of a sudden they start caring about the environment

hence why the environmental activists are often upper class whites from wealthy nations


but you know, reality kind of flies in the face of the fake environmentalist narrative

that a thriving economy is bad for the environment

so they don't like to talk about that

if they do, then people might want free market solutions to environmental problems

instead of authoritarian central planning "solutions"

so they try to sweep these facts under the rug


pretending to care for the environment is simply a ruse

to justify using government force to control the behavior of others

and if you propose things that will help the environment

that don't use government force to control the behavior of others

they reject them, because in reality they care more about control than the environment

if many of the environmental problems are reduced without authoritarian central planning

then they would need another excuse to justify the authoritarian central planning

and they are loathe to give up "for the earth"

[Smitty-48]

the climate doom religion only cares about the sin of carbon

it doesn't involve cleaning up the natural environment

all that matters is punishing people for committing the sin of generating carbon