Masculinity

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Re: Masculinity

Post by The Conservative » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:22 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:19 am
The Conservative wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:17 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:16 am


only white European men would come together to fight a War of Independence

it's the Greek Occident & Protestant Reformation come together, culture is destiny

I don't think these immigrants are a threat to the oligarchs, because they won't unify into any cohesive force
It won't matter if the numbers are greater against than for independence.
I don't think numbers really matter

it's what percentage adopt the American religion upon arrival

I see the real threat as being native born Americans attacking the American religion, bringing it down from within
That's my point.
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Re: Masculinity

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:23 am

The Conservative wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:22 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:19 am
The Conservative wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:17 am


It won't matter if the numbers are greater against than for independence.
I don't think numbers really matter

it's what percentage adopt the American religion upon arrival

I see the real threat as being native born Americans attacking the American religion, bringing it down from within
That's my point.
in most cases the immigrants are more conservative, like Mexicans in south Texas voting Republican now
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Re: Masculinity

Post by DBTrek » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:25 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:22 am
DBTrek wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:18 am
You familiar with Muslims, bro?
Or they don't have those in Canada?
that's not a monolith, the Muslims are deeply divided by sect & tribe and mostly are at war with each other
... kinda like Americans, eh?
that might spill over into America at street level, but I don't think Wall Street is worried about it
Well, the Wallstreet businesses operating out of the WTC certainly aren't, anymore.
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Re: Masculinity

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:29 am

DBTrek wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:25 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:22 am
DBTrek wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:18 am
You familiar with Muslims, bro?
Or they don't have those in Canada?
that's not a monolith, the Muslims are deeply divided by sect & tribe and mostly are at war with each other
... kinda like Americans, eh?
that might spill over into America at street level, but I don't think Wall Street is worried about it
Well, the Wallstreet businesses operating out of the WTC certainly aren't, anymore.
well I think bringing in large number of Muslims is a threat to Main Street USA, it will bring more Jihadists

but since the elites don't live on Main Street USA, they don't care, they will be in Switzerland or whatever
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Re: Masculinity

Post by DBTrek » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:31 am

You could be right.

Or ... you could be underestimating the tenacity of a religiously-centered culture that has managed to pull off a couple thousand years of semi-continuous warfare, while giving modern businessmen way too much credit.

That's the beauty of life, we can speculate, but ultimately time will tell.
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Re: Masculinity

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:36 am

DBTrek wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:31 am
You could be right.

Or ... you could be underestimating the tenacity of a religiously-centered culture that has managed to pull off a couple thousand years of semi-continuous warfare, while giving modern businessmen way too much credit.

That's the beauty of life, we can speculate, but ultimately time will tell.
well again, I don't think the elites are one single entity with a central command

it's more like an mindless organism which reacts to stimuli

so in the moment open borders is just a reactive way of keeping the Woke Millennials voting for the Democrats
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Re: Masculinity

Post by DBTrek » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:39 am

Opens discussion by talking about monolithic corporations turning monolithic American men into pliant video-game slaves.
When the counterpoints arrive - immediately argues that everything is not a monolith.

/shrug
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Re: Masculinity

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:40 am

the change happens at the geostrategic level : Neoliberal Order

this then changes the culture : Woke Millennials

which leads to reactive policies to manipulate : Open Borders
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Re: Masculinity

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:42 am

DBTrek wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:39 am
Opens discussion by talking about monolithic corporations turning monolithic American men into pliant video-game slaves.
When the counterpoints arrive - immediately argues that everything is not a monolith.

/shrug
the corporations are monolithic, but they don't have a central nervous system with a brain

they are reactive, they react to stimuli, they all react at once to the same stimuli, but not by consciousness
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Re: Masculinity

Post by DBTrek » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:45 am

How are corporations monolithic?
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