Does Anyone Really Believe in Liberty?

[Martin Hash]

It’s not like that anymore, of course. I think it changed near the turn of the century. Farmer said he thought MAGA ended on 9/11, and I agree with that. Everything changed for the worse.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

But lots of Liberty going on outside of urban hellscapes and suburban, Karen infested HOA wastelands.

Hold up, there.

If all it takes to have liberty is riding dirty, well, loads of folks in my urban hellscape driving without a licence and getting away with it, bruh. Did it myself for almost four years - drove all over the Bay Area on an expired licence - bought beer with it too.

"Illegal" fireworks and guns popping off all summer, too. I don't know how much drunk driving - but I know it ain't zero.

Liberty Hellscape all up in this sum'bitch.

[DBTrek]

But lots of Liberty going on outside of urban hellscapes and suburban, Karen infested HOA wastelands.

Hold up, there.

If all it takes to have liberty is riding dirty, well, loads of folks in my urban hellscape driving without a licence and getting away with it, bruh.Did it myself for almost four years - drove all over the Bay Area on an expired licence - bought beer with it too.

"Illegal" fireworks and guns popping off all summer, too. I don't know how much drunk driving - but I know it ain't zero.

Liberty Hellscape all up in this sum'bitch.

More liberty in spite of government, not because of it.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

More liberty in spite of government, not because of it.

Preaching to the choir. Gub'ment isn't the lever I pull when I want more liberty - it's the lever I pull when someone else's liberty becomes a pain in my ass, and I am happy as hell it is there.

[Martin Hash]

It's safe to say that no one on this forum has ever directly benefited from liberty but me.

I always tell my wife that I'm totally unique: not only am I the only-ever-blah-blah-blah in several things, but everything I like, no one else likes, and everything I don't like, everyone else likes. I gotta say it took some getting used to but in the grand scheme of things, I think I came out on top.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

It's safe to say that no one on this forum has ever directly benefited from liberty but me.

That's bold.

I'd expect everyone on this forum has benefited directly from liberty - if not quite so.... uniquely.

[Martin Hash]

Indirectly, sure, but who here accomplished something on their own merits without nepotistic or State assistance?

Another crazy irony that occurred to me is that the biggest supporters of liberty in America are young immigrant Russian men.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Indirectly, sure, but who here accomplished something on their own merits without nepotistic or State assistance?

You think you are the only one here that has applied themselves to a task and accomplished something they are proud of?

[DBTrek]

Indirectly, sure, but who here accomplished something on their own merits without nepotistic or State assistance?

Well, I know one guy we can apparently rule out.

I had to rely on government every step of the way ...

[Martin Hash]

Indirectly, sure, but who here accomplished something on their own merits without nepotistic or State assistance?

Well, I know one guy we can apparently rule out.

I had to rely on government every step of the way ...

I admit I couldn’t break through the gatekeepers all by myself. Nepotism rules.