Dan Carlin

[Smitty-48]

well I'm not churchy, but I will go down arm in arm with the churchy people when the time comes

I'm not really one for thumping the Bible, but I will take a bullet for it, if push comes to shove

Ditto. If forced to choose sides.. I choose the "weak minds." (What a weird synopsis from Grumps)

I acknowledge my weaknesses, a soldier knows his limitations, it's not about being superman, it's just about having faith, I am not the messiah, I am just a pilgrim who tries to walk the path

[SuburbanFarmer]

I’d defend religious freedom just as much as the rest of the First Amendment, regardless of name-calling from behind.

[DBTrek]

well I'm not churchy, but I will go down arm in arm with the churchy people when the time comes

I'm not really one for thumping the Bible, but I will take a bullet for it, if push comes to shove

Ditto. If forced to choose sides.. I choose the "weak minds." (What a weird synopsis from Grumps)

Not churchy at all.
Trying to get back into church, to give the little ones a foundation, but the COVID restrictions are being abused to make it really difficult.

Still, I went through my angsty atheist phase. I saw what the world constantly told me about Christians. And I saw what Christians actually did, how they treat others, and where there lives were at four decades down the road compared to the bitter atheists.
I recognize success when I see it.
I know when the evidence suggests I've been lied to.
I'm down with the faithful.

[Smitty-48]

it was my regimentalal Padre Major Nelson who planted the seeds of Christ with me

he wasn't very churchy, he as an ex biker who became a Christian soldier

really we just talked about life in general, then he testified why it gave him faith in God

he liked hanging out with my crew in the field, rolling at the sharp end

took awhile for me to feel it, but he got through to me in the end

pretty sure he knew he was at the time, he had that twinkle in his eye

he said he had faith that the mighty Smitty would come to Jesus before the end

[Haumana]

I’d defend religious freedom just as much as the rest of the First Amendment, regardless of name-calling from behind.

More poor me. All alone. As if you are the tip of the spear. 2nd Leap of Faith belief in the 1st Amendment. Keep em coming!

[SuburbanFarmer]

I’d defend religious freedom just as much as the rest of the First Amendment, regardless of name-calling from behind.

More poor me. All alone. As if you are the tip of the spear. 2nd Leap of Faith belief in the 1st Amendment. Keep em coming!

Not sure what you’re going for here...

[Haumana]

I’d defend religious freedom just as much as the rest of the First Amendment, regardless of name-calling from behind.

More poor me. All alone. As if you are the tip of the spear. 2nd Leap of Faith belief in the 1st Amendment. Keep em coming!

Not sure what you’re going for here...

That's clear.

[DrYouth]

The weak-minded require a belief system of some kind, no matter what. The fact that our government has utterly failed at basic functionality, and even the scientific consensus has been corrupted leaves all of those below an 80 IQ and non-religious with nothing to cling to. Thus, total chaos.

SUF has invoked the DCF Atheism thread and somewhere Rant is restless and ornery.

We all require a belief system.

A firm atheistic worldview is INDEED a belief system that all other belief systems are false... except the ones that don't include
a Transcendant Ideal or Set of Ideals that has Spiritual and Practical Power and that comes around to bite you in the ass somehow if you ignore it...
AKA God or Gods

The refusal to accept any core Truth to our Universe is also the core of the postmodern bullshit train.

The postmodern belief system is basically "there is NO TRUTH. And that's the truth folks".
So hand in your papers... everyone gets a B+... and cute girls and suck ups get an A+

The Woke have a belief system - "original white male sin without redemption".
They have the 10 commandments of Woke intersectionality.
Woke mobs, woke tribunals and woke cancellations.

So yes - we better agree on a basic belief system around here... or there will be endless internal squabbling among the troops.

We can't live harmoniously on The Martin Hash Ark of Freedom if we can't agree on any basic principals.
Or if we claim that "only the weak minded" need to agree on some basic beliefs.
Or Chaos will reign supreme.
No clan can do it, no tribe can do it and ultimately no empire can do it.
We don't need to agree on everything, but we need to agree on enough things.

Those who don't agree... will either choose to leave on a lifeboat, keep their disagreements to themselves...

or...

Wait for it...

They will try to take over the Ark - and impose their belief system by fiat.
Which mostly doesn't happen around here... except apparently to Monte.

or...

Wait for it again...

Burn the MotherFucker Down... (see the DCF forum archives)


So.... pretty much yep.

Belief systems are a big deal.

I would say we are pretty good at Hashing them out...

[Xenophon]

The weak-minded require a belief system of some kind, no matter what. The fact that our government has utterly failed at basic functionality, and even the scientific consensus has been corrupted leaves all of those below an 80 IQ and non-religious with nothing to cling to. Thus, total chaos.

SUF has invoked the DCF Atheism thread and somewhere Rant is restless and ornery.

We all require a belief system.

A firm atheistic worldview is INDEED a belief system that all other belief systems are false... except the ones that don't include
a Transcendant Ideal or Set of Ideals that has Spiritual and Practical Power and that comes around to bite you in the ass somehow if you ignore it...
AKA God or Gods

The refusal to accept any core Truth to our Universe is also the core of the postmodern bullshit train.

The postmodern belief system is basically "there is NO TRUTH. And that's the truth folks".
So hand in your papers... everyone gets a B+... and cute girls and suck ups get an A+

The Woke have a belief system - "original white male sin without redemption".
They have the 10 commandments of Woke intersectionality.
Woke mobs, woke tribunals and woke cancellations.

So yes - we better agree on a basic belief system around here... or there will be endless internal squabbling among the troops.

We can't live harmoniously on The Martin Hash Ark of Freedom if we can't agree on any basic principals.
Or if we claim that "only the weak minded" need to agree on some basic beliefs.
Or Chaos will reign supreme.
No clan can do it, no tribe can do it and ultimately no empire can do it.
We don't need to agree on everything, but we need to agree on enough things.

Those who don't agree... will either choose to leave on a lifeboat, keep their disagreements to themselves...

or...

Wait for it...

They will try to take over the Ark - and impose their belief system by fiat.
Which mostly doesn't happen around here... except apparently to Monte.

or...

Wait for it again...

Burn the MotherFucker Down... (see the DCF forum archives)


So.... pretty much yep.

Belief systems are a big deal.

I would say we are pretty good at Hashing them out...

Very well said, Doc.

Everyone has a belief system. Most of the time, people who don't believe in a "higher power" tend to believe themselves to be highly rational people. They don't earn this rationality, of course. They have married their mind to the cultural structures of modernity, and believe that because they "fucking love science!" it makes them an intelligent member of society. Their default attitude when faced with trouble is to parrot whatever media wants them to. It is de facto scripture for them, and whoever the media tells them to trust is their high priest.

"Trust the science!"

"Get the vaccine!"

"Your kids need to mask up in public, too! They could be asymptomatic spreaders!"

There are a subset of these people who are using this as an opportunity to indulge in their authoritarian tendencies, but most of them are genuine in their beliefs. It most certainly is a question of faith, though. If you've ever tried to convince a Covidian using statistical data, you'll see their eyes glaze over. Their programming takes over, and they immediately file you away in their head as being "crazy." Their humanistic, media-soaked worldview has provided them the method they need to rationalize their beliefs, but it is by no means an intellectual worldview. They are about as rational as Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi.

I understand them in a certain sense. They believe in the nebulous concept of "good" without any kind of authority that tells them what "good" is. They are completely at the whim of the culture. 50 years ago, these would have been the "moral majority" types who saw what the culture at large told them was "good" and just did that to get by. But now, the levers of culture are held firmly by Woke extremists. Every piece of media has a woke spin that has been slowly dripped to the masses from the cradle to the grave, and most people aren't aware enough to see it.

I I believe in a real sense that Christ was the Son of God, and still lives today. The Christian Worldview presents the most accurate picture of the world around me. The metaphysical underpinnings of the world as presented in Scripture seems more logical than the ever-changing whimsical nature of modern intellectual discourse. I am a Zealot, but I'm not one because the TV told me to be. I feel like it is important to understand why you believe what it is that you believe and be able to provide a defense of it. This is something the Woke don't understand, because they have been conditioned to accept whatever it is that media culture tells them. If they had an ounce of self-awareness, their worldview would crumble.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Ok. I see that I failed to make my point clear, and we collectively invoked a years-old thread on atheism vs religion. That is probably my fault.

My statement was simply intended to observe that the collapse of societal institutions is leading to chaos - BECAUSE - the weak-minded cling to their existing institutions for direction/purpose. They’re unable to adapt to a paradigm shift of any kind.

Religious belief is down in great numbers, replaced by faith in The State or The Science. Now that The Science is mostly political, and The State is utterly corrupt and incompetent, we get chaos.

Because the weak-minded are unable to adapt. They cling to whatever they get from The State or The Science - forming a new religion, as we’ve all more or less observed. Once that tether finally breaks, they go nuts.

As for my personal beliefs - I also noted that I’m an agnostic. Not an atheist. I don’t have an exterior moral guide, and it’s scary. Mental fortitude is the only defense for me, against the fear of future and mortality.

Make sense now?