F35 vs. A10?

F35 vs A10?

F35
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by StCapps » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:36 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:35 pm
in fact, anybody who is old enough to remember, knows that the media trashed the F-15 back in the 70's

it was a hanger queen, it was too expensive, it was full of bugs, it was a waste of money

all these things were said by the American media about the F-15 Eagle too

this is the media narrative about all weapon systems in general, they never met one they ever approved of
GCF never met a weapon system he ever approved of either, he drinks their kool-aid by the gallon
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:37 pm

StCapps wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:36 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:35 pm
in fact, anybody who is old enough to remember, knows that the media trashed the F-15 back in the 70's

it was a hanger queen, it was too expensive, it was full of bugs, it was a waste of money

all these things were said by the American media about the F-15 Eagle too

this is the media narrative about all weapon systems in general, they never met one they ever approved of
GCF never met a weapon system he ever approved of either
because just like the media types, he fancies himself to be some sort of messiah come to save us from something
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:05 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:30 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:21 pm
Again, if we can save a few trillion on other boondoggles with this one, I'm all for it. Go F35!

There's still that issue with supplying oxygen to the pilot, and software glitches... but hey, let's save some money.
the Space Shuttle was expensive, and it blew up twice, every complex machine is full of bugs and flaws, so what ?
Space Shuttle was the worst possible design for space exploration. A half-assed attempt at an SSTO vehicle, as mandated by politicians trying to 'save money'. Unsafe, unstable, and unable to get anywhere further than low-earth orbit. Absolute trash, repeated again by Constellation, and now SLS.
This is why Elon is able to run laps around NASA - they're run by the politicians now.
the F-15 Eagle has a critical design flaw which can cause it to break up in flight, but every F-35 hater loves F-15
Never heard of that, but interesting. That's probably why the F-16 has been dominant for so long.
We didn't need a fighter jet then, and we don't need one now, but they're pretty cool at air shows.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:06 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:05 pm

Never heard of that, but interesting. That's probably why the F-16 has been dominant for so long.
We didn't need a fighter jet then, and we don't need one now, but they're pretty cool at air shows.
no, the F-15 is dominant over the F-16

the F-16 is the same as the F-35, the fighter to win the market share with allied nations
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:07 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:37 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:36 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:35 pm
in fact, anybody who is old enough to remember, knows that the media trashed the F-15 back in the 70's

it was a hanger queen, it was too expensive, it was full of bugs, it was a waste of money

all these things were said by the American media about the F-15 Eagle too

this is the media narrative about all weapon systems in general, they never met one they ever approved of
GCF never met a weapon system he ever approved of either
because just like the media types, he fancies himself to be some sort of messiah come to save us from something
As do we all, I suspect. Smitty, savior of the unsexy millenial. Capps, his loyal sidekick.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:08 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:06 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:05 pm

Never heard of that, but interesting. That's probably why the F-16 has been dominant for so long.
We didn't need a fighter jet then, and we don't need one now, but they're pretty cool at air shows.
no, the F-15 is dominant over the F-16

the F-16 is the same as the F-35, the fighter to win the market share with allied nations
Yes, market share. Profits for the MIC. Nothing to do with defense, as we already knew.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by pineapplemike » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:09 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:35 pm
in fact, anybody who is old enough to remember, knows that the media trashed the F-15 back in the 70's

it was a hanger queen, it was too expensive, it was full of bugs, it was a waste of money

all these things were said by the American media about the F-15 Eagle too

this is the media narrative about all weapon systems in general, they never met one they ever approved of

the liberal media panders to its base
smitty breaking it down as per yuge

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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:09 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:08 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:06 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:05 pm

Never heard of that, but interesting. That's probably why the F-16 has been dominant for so long.
We didn't need a fighter jet then, and we don't need one now, but they're pretty cool at air shows.
no, the F-15 is dominant over the F-16

the F-16 is the same as the F-35, the fighter to win the market share with allied nations
Yes, market share. Profits for the MIC. Nothing to do with defense, as we already knew.
there is very little profit in weapons, the profit margin on the F-16 is 10%

the whole point of F-16 was for NATO to standardize to the American fighter
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:15 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:09 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:08 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:06 pm


no, the F-15 is dominant over the F-16

the F-16 is the same as the F-35, the fighter to win the market share with allied nations
Yes, market share. Profits for the MIC. Nothing to do with defense, as we already knew.
there is very little profit in weapons, the profit margin on the F-16 is 10%

the whole point of F-16 was for NATO to standardize to the American fighter
Didn't work out, did it.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:17 pm

pineapplemike wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:09 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:35 pm
in fact, anybody who is old enough to remember, knows that the media trashed the F-15 back in the 70's

it was a hanger queen, it was too expensive, it was full of bugs, it was a waste of money

all these things were said by the American media about the F-15 Eagle too

this is the media narrative about all weapon systems in general, they never met one they ever approved of

the liberal media panders to its base
smitty breaking it down as per yuge
it's not about comparing F-35 to some perfect fighter which doesn't exist, although that it the media narrative

when you compare F-35 to the actual alternatives, it's a no brainer

also bear in mind that F-35 is replacing F-16 & F/A-18 which have all sorts of bugs themselves

it's not even expensive for what it does, an F-16 with sensor fusion would cost the same

sensor fusion is the most expensive part of the F-35

but that is the game changing part which makes it a revolutionary leap

the picture that the pilot is looking at in the cockpit, nothing that has come before can do that

is it complex and fraught with issues ? Yes it is, but the situational awareness gained is worth it
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