Poking the Bear Again
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Re: Poking the Bear Again
Trump doesn't even have to run in 2024
he has changed the culture of the GOP
if Josh Hawley wants to be President for example, and he obviously does, he has to dance to Trump's tune
they can't come back with George W Bush 2.0
all GOP candidates will be judged against Trump's populism from now on
the GOP has become a Blue Collar party now, and this is what TR did in the first Gilded Age as well
he has changed the culture of the GOP
if Josh Hawley wants to be President for example, and he obviously does, he has to dance to Trump's tune
they can't come back with George W Bush 2.0
all GOP candidates will be judged against Trump's populism from now on
the GOP has become a Blue Collar party now, and this is what TR did in the first Gilded Age as well
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all that being said, the hydrogen bombs don't care what your politics are
6,000,000 degrees, hotter than the sun
the hydrogen bomb has a politics unto itself, the hydrogen bomb doesn't care who wins the elections
the Washington National Security Consensus is not in control, control is a delusion
6,000,000 degrees, hotter than the sun
the hydrogen bomb has a politics unto itself, the hydrogen bomb doesn't care who wins the elections
the Washington National Security Consensus is not in control, control is a delusion
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Again, I agree.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:13 amthe Establishment narrative is that Trump has destroyed the GOP
but I think the opposite is the case
Trump saved the GOP, Trump flipped the GOP away from the rich to be the party of the masses
history will absolve him, he is destined to be Teddy Roosevelt 2.0
I didn’t know what NeoCons were when Trump got elected so the unprecedented attacks against him didn’t make sense. They were only possible because all Democrat power plus all GOP power was against him.
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the NeoCons long ago fractured into factionsMartin Hash wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:36 amAgain, I agree.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:13 amthe Establishment narrative is that Trump has destroyed the GOP
but I think the opposite is the case
Trump saved the GOP, Trump flipped the GOP away from the rich to be the party of the masses
history will absolve him, he is destined to be Teddy Roosevelt 2.0
I didn’t know what NeoCons were when Trump got elected so the unprecedented attacks against him didn’t make sense. They were only possible because all Democrat power plus all GOP power was against him.
there are pro Trump NeoCons and Anti-Trump NeoCons
the Trump camp is the Morning in America Ronald Reagan faction
the NeverTrumps are the George H. W. Bush New World Order faction
remember, Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush did not see eye to eye, they were rivals
they ran against each other head to head, Reagan beat Bush with MAGA, but Bush called it "Voodoo Economics"
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there's a third faction of the GOP who are not NeoCons, that's the Barry Goldwater faction
Rand Paul & Co basically, but they can't hold back the tide of populism
libertarians need reason to prevail, that's not viable in the midst of an hysterical populist uprising
they are getting swamped by the duelling NeoCon factions, Dutch Reagan vs. H. W. Bush
Rand Paul & Co basically, but they can't hold back the tide of populism
libertarians need reason to prevail, that's not viable in the midst of an hysterical populist uprising
they are getting swamped by the duelling NeoCon factions, Dutch Reagan vs. H. W. Bush
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at the core of Neoconservatism is the refusal to engage in moral relativism
there is such a thing as an Evil Empire, and it has to be confronted
the schism is over George Cannon's policy of Containment
the George H. W. Bush faction favoured passive Containment, don't poke the Bear
the Reagan faction favoured poking the Bear, get up in his kitchen, put the gun in his mouth, call his bluff
what changed everything was the fall of the Iron Curtain nary a shot fired
rather than having to fight World War Three, there was a Velvet Revolution in Moscow
so this became the new model for the George H. W. Bush camp, which Obama picked up as his sword
Trump on the other hand went with the Reagan model, incite an arms race which Moscow cannot keep up with
there is such a thing as an Evil Empire, and it has to be confronted
the schism is over George Cannon's policy of Containment
the George H. W. Bush faction favoured passive Containment, don't poke the Bear
the Reagan faction favoured poking the Bear, get up in his kitchen, put the gun in his mouth, call his bluff
what changed everything was the fall of the Iron Curtain nary a shot fired
rather than having to fight World War Three, there was a Velvet Revolution in Moscow
so this became the new model for the George H. W. Bush camp, which Obama picked up as his sword
Trump on the other hand went with the Reagan model, incite an arms race which Moscow cannot keep up with
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Authoritarian NeoCons, Fascists, seem little different than Commies. I wish StA was sane enough to post on this topic. He needs to climb out of the pit.
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Fascism is the reactionary response to CommunismMartin Hash wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:10 amAuthoritarian NeoCons, Fascists, seem little different than Commies. I wish StA was sane enough to post on this topic. He needs to climb out of the pit.
it has to be authoritarian, because Communists don't play by any civilized rules
the Communists are so extreme they force conservatives to fight fire with fire
so for example you could defeat the Woke, but then you'll probably get a Mike Pompeo as President instead
the culture war is a war, all politics is downstream to culture, so it is no holds barred, anything goes
Marshall McLuhan's guerrilla information war with no distinction between military and civilian
we are living in it right now, this is an epoch washing over us
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Another accurate-seeming analysis.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:16 amFascism is the reactionary response to CommunismMartin Hash wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:10 amAuthoritarian NeoCons, Fascists, seem little different than Commies. I wish StA was sane enough to post on this topic. He needs to climb out of the pit.
it has to be authoritarian, because Communists don't play by any civilized rules
the Communists are so extreme they force conservatives to fight fire with fire
so for example you could defeat the Woke, but then you'll probably get a Mike Pompeo as President instead
the culture war is a war, all politics is downstream to culture, so it is no holds barred, anything goes
Marshall McLuhan's guerrilla information war with no distinction between military and civilian
we are living in it right now, this is an epoch washing over us
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Woke Communism is postmodern
in the modern world, you had to seize territory by force of arms
in the postmodern Marshall McLuhan world you can stage Velvet Revolutions
overthrowing governments nary a shot fired, march into their camp by way of their own institutions
never mind tanks, the key to control is education
the Woke turned the entire education system into a Communist indoctrination camp
they changed the culture at the generational level, now the downstream effects are playing out
the left switched to Information Warfare and they have been winning ever since, conservatives are way behind
Trump is one of the first Information Warfare conservatives, the Twitter President changed the game
in the modern world, you had to seize territory by force of arms
in the postmodern Marshall McLuhan world you can stage Velvet Revolutions
overthrowing governments nary a shot fired, march into their camp by way of their own institutions
never mind tanks, the key to control is education
the Woke turned the entire education system into a Communist indoctrination camp
they changed the culture at the generational level, now the downstream effects are playing out
the left switched to Information Warfare and they have been winning ever since, conservatives are way behind
Trump is one of the first Information Warfare conservatives, the Twitter President changed the game
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