Poking the Bear Again

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:44 am

somewhat bizarrely, the UK has decided to take action in the Black Sea

the Royal Navy is sending warships to the Black Sea to replace the American DDG-51's which were pulled back

two surface combatants are to detach from the RN Carrier Task Force in the Mediterranean

a Type 45 Anti Air Warfare Destroyer will be deployed, either HMS Defender or HMS Diamond

a Type 23 General Purpose Frigate will be deployed, either HMS Kent or HMS Richmond
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:01 pm

Czech's expel Russian diplomats over covert action by the Russian GRU

Russia retaliates by expelling Czech diplomats

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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:17 pm

Russian FSB detains two individuals plotting coup in Belarus, assassination of Lukashenko

The coup was scheduled for May 9 during the Victory Day Parade in Minsk, Russia’s Federal Security Service said

MOSCOW, April 17. /TASS/. Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) has detained two individuals who plotted a military coup in Belarus and an assassination attack on President Alexander Lukashenko, the FSB Public Relations Center said on Saturday.

"In a special operation conducted by the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation alongside the State Security Committee of the Republic of Belarus (KGB), the illegal activities of Yuri Leonidovich Zyankovich, a dual citizen of the United States and the Republic of Belarus, and Belarusian citizen Alexander Feduta were prevented, as those had been scheming to stage a military coup in Belarus in accordance with the tried and tested ‘color revolution’ scenario with the involvement of local and Ukrainian nationalists, as well as the physical removal of President Alexander Lukashenko," the FSB said.

The FSB said, "according to proactive information received from the Belarusian partners, in private chats of an internet messenger the ideologists of radical opposition Zyankovich and Feduta organized discussion of a plan of armed uprising in Belarus and decided to hold an in-person meeting in Moscow, using available measures of secrecy, with the opposition-minded generals of the republic’s Armed Forces."

The FSB Public Relations Center continued that upon Zyankovich’s arrival in Moscow after his consultations in the US and Poland, such a meeting took place in a private room of a restaurant in Moscow.

"At the meeting, the conspirators told the ‘Belarusian generals’ that to succeed in implementing their plan, it was necessary to physically remove nearly all the top figures of the republic. They described in detail the plan of a military coup, including the seizure of radio and television centers to broadcast their address to the nation and the blocking of internal troops and OMON (riot police) loyal to the authorities in the capital," it noted.

"They were preparing a blackout of the Belarusian power grid to hamper the actions of the army and law enforcement agencies. Some armed groups (guerillas) located at hidden bases were supposed to launch an active phase," the FSB reported adding that the ultimate goal was the upheaval of Belarus’ constitutional system, to eliminate the position of presidency and to vest political power in the National Reconciliation Committee.

The coup was scheduled for May 9 during the Victory Day Parade in Minsk, the FSB said.

"After the above mentioned meeting had been recorded, the conspirators were apprehended by the Russian security services and handed over to the Belarusian counterparts," the FSB said.

https://tass.com/world/1279447
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Re: Poking the Bear Again

Post by StCapps » Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:07 pm

another poking the bear thread eh?

that's hype

good way to kill time on the night shift

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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:22 pm

StCapps wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:07 pm
another poking the bear thread eh?

that's hype

good way to kill time on the night shift

quality content ftw
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Re: Poking the Bear Again

Post by StCapps » Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:39 pm

the wildcards seem interesting

even if America backs off

Poland and/or Turkey provoking the Russians

could pull them back in again


the Biden Admin's incoherent flip flopping foreign policy driven by attempting to appease the Russia Hawks and the China Hawks

and obvious lack of resolve to back up their attempts to be all things to all people

increasing the danger of misapprehension, miscalculation or mistake

is another interesting angle
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Post by kybkh » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:36 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:17 pm
Russian FSB detains two individuals plotting coup in Belarus, assassination of Lukashenko

The coup was scheduled for May 9 during the Victory Day Parade in Minsk, Russia’s Federal Security Service said

MOSCOW, April 17. /TASS/. Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) has detained two individuals who plotted a military coup in Belarus and an assassination attack on President Alexander Lukashenko, the FSB Public Relations Center said on Saturday.

"In a special operation conducted by the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation alongside the State Security Committee of the Republic of Belarus (KGB), the illegal activities of Yuri Leonidovich Zyankovich, a dual citizen of the United States and the Republic of Belarus, and Belarusian citizen Alexander Feduta were prevented, as those had been scheming to stage a military coup in Belarus in accordance with the tried and tested ‘color revolution’ scenario with the involvement of local and Ukrainian nationalists, as well as the physical removal of President Alexander Lukashenko," the FSB said.

The FSB said, "according to proactive information received from the Belarusian partners, in private chats of an internet messenger the ideologists of radical opposition Zyankovich and Feduta organized discussion of a plan of armed uprising in Belarus and decided to hold an in-person meeting in Moscow, using available measures of secrecy, with the opposition-minded generals of the republic’s Armed Forces."

The FSB Public Relations Center continued that upon Zyankovich’s arrival in Moscow after his consultations in the US and Poland, such a meeting took place in a private room of a restaurant in Moscow.

"At the meeting, the conspirators told the ‘Belarusian generals’ that to succeed in implementing their plan, it was necessary to physically remove nearly all the top figures of the republic. They described in detail the plan of a military coup, including the seizure of radio and television centers to broadcast their address to the nation and the blocking of internal troops and OMON (riot police) loyal to the authorities in the capital," it noted.

"They were preparing a blackout of the Belarusian power grid to hamper the actions of the army and law enforcement agencies. Some armed groups (guerillas) located at hidden bases were supposed to launch an active phase," the FSB reported adding that the ultimate goal was the upheaval of Belarus’ constitutional system, to eliminate the position of presidency and to vest political power in the National Reconciliation Committee.

The coup was scheduled for May 9 during the Victory Day Parade in Minsk, the FSB said.

"After the above mentioned meeting had been recorded, the conspirators were apprehended by the Russian security services and handed over to the Belarusian counterparts," the FSB said.

https://tass.com/world/1279447
Can you opine on why it appears Putin is striking a more provocative stance with what is supposed to be a more hawkish FoPo team in DC?? I mean, if Trump was such a Putin Pussy, wouldn't it have made more sense to do this Donbas Offensive while he was in office?
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Post by C-Mag » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:52 am

Project Veritas got CNN to admit the Trump-Russia stuff was all propaganda. Which of course you know.

Listening to the Z Man Blog he has an interesting opinion on this. He's of the mind that the Dems big bone with Russia and Iran coincidentally are all about Reagan, and the Gippers success with the two. Basically, yes, the Dems are that childish to start trouble with Russia and try to bribe Iran into some deal to reshape history into the Dems having solved these issues.
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Re: Poking the Bear Again

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:43 am

kybkh wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:36 am
Can you opine on why it appears Putin is striking a more provocative stance with what is supposed to be a more hawkish FoPo team in DC?? I mean, if Trump was such a Putin Pussy, wouldn't it have made more sense to do this Donbas Offensive while he was in office?
I don't think it is Putin who is being provocative, I think it is Zelensky who is provoking this

this was all started by the Ukrainians making their move in the Donbass first, preparing to attack the Russians

with Trump in office the Ukrainians didn't feel like they had backup

now that the Obamacons are back, the Ukrainians are being encouraged to provoke the Russians
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Post by kybkh » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:47 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:43 am
kybkh wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:36 am
Can you opine on why it appears Putin is striking a more provocative stance with what is supposed to be a more hawkish FoPo team in DC?? I mean, if Trump was such a Putin Pussy, wouldn't it have made more sense to do this Donbas Offensive while he was in office?
I don't think it is Putin who is being provocative, I think it is Zelensky who is provoking this

this was all started by the Ukrainians making their move in the Donbass first, preparing to attack the Russians

with Trump in office the Ukrainians didn't feel like they had backup

now that the Obamacons are back, the Ukrainians are being encouraged to provoke the Russians
Sorry, of course I totally left the Ukrainians moves out of the picture. I can't imagine they aren't being encouraged by DC tho.

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