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Re: Current US Military

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:39 am

it's like Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan

none of these were existential wars

the primary fault is simply that they were unnecessary wars, make work projects

it's not that America suffered catastrophic losses, it's simply the losses that America suffered were wasteful

you only get into these sorts of sideshow wars, when you are largely unchallenged by any other Hegemon's
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Re: Current US Military

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:44 am

thing about the Black Sea tho

that's not Russian Gulf of Tonkin, that's Russian Gulf of Mexico

Crimea is not Russian Vietnam, it's Russian Florida

so for the Russians, this is an existential confrontation, thus why tactical nuclear weapons are being deployed
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Re: Current US Military

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:52 am

I mean, America came close to using tactical nuclear weapons in Korea

America considered using tactical nuclear weapons in Vietnam

and America went right to the brink of World War Three for the Gulf of Mexico

so all I am saying is, if push comes to shove,

the Russians will definitely employ tactical nuclear weapons to defend Russian Florida
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Re: Current US Military

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:03 am

bear in mind, the Obama Doctrine doesn't say MAD is wrong per se

it just says MAD is obsolete

MAD relied on a stable bipolar confrontation

that situation is no more, now we are into multipolar nuclear world outside of America's control

therefore theater thermonuclear wars are very plausible

thus America cannot bury her head in the sand, America must be prepared to fight & win a theater counterforce
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Re: Current US Military

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:08 am

the Obama Doctrine in fact says that a global thermonuclear war by interpolar exchange is extremely unlikely

that is not the nuclear war which America is going to be confronted with

so don't expend huge resources on MAD, that's obsolete
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Re: Current US Military

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:15 am

being a Neoconservative Hawk myself, me & Obama can get along just fine

alls I'm saying is, no half measures

if you're going to get up in Ivan's kitchen like President Reagan did, you have to go all the way

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Re: Current US Military

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:27 am

my concern with Biden is not ideological, the Woke moral panic domestic crisis is a separate issue

he's just too old, he's senile, he's not really running things

so actually, America doesn't have a unitary Commander-in-Chief at the moment

and when tactical nuclear weapons are in play at theater level, that's bad juju
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Re: Current US Military

Post by The Conservative » Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:28 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:15 am
being a Neoconservative Hawk myself, me & Obama can get along just fine

alls I'm saying is, no half measures

if you're going to get up in Ivan's kitchen like President Reagan did, you have to go all the way

Eagle with thunderbolts in talons grasped, peace through strength

First few seconds of that sound like a cult... nope.
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Re: Current US Military

Post by The Conservative » Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:29 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:27 am
my concern with Biden is not ideological, the Woke moral panic domestic crisis is a separate issue

he's just too old, he's senile, he's not really running things

so actually, America doesn't have a unitary Commander-in-Chief at the moment

and when tactical nuclear weapons are in play at theater level, that's bad juju
Biden had an ideology, he just forgot it.
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Re: Current US Military

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:35 am

The Conservative wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:28 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:15 am
being a Neoconservative Hawk myself, me & Obama can get along just fine

alls I'm saying is, no half measures

if you're going to get up in Ivan's kitchen like President Reagan did, you have to go all the way

Eagle with thunderbolts in talons grasped, peace through strength

First few seconds of that sound like a cult... nope.
the military is a Death Cult by nature

has to be, how else do I get a teenager to go over the top to his doom for God & Country ?
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