The Double Edged Sword of Term Limits

[SuburbanFarmer]

I could live with that, if individual donations weren't unlimited, via SuperPac.

SuperPacs are another story, but an individual/corp/company would only be able to donate the maximum amount that an individual can donate. That would nip in the bud really quick the mega donors.

Blatantly unconstitutional.

Boy, you love some donations.

[clubgop]

All articles and amendments of the Constitution apply only to individual humans.


You’re welcome.

Ridiculous. So when the NSA wanted all those phone records, phone companies just had to comply afterall they have no 4th amendment rights. I am sure you are cool with that. I am sure if Congress passed a law severely restricting news corps that would be ok with you.

I am completely fine with that. The 4th amendment applies to those individuals who had their phone records searched. Said records should be protected by the 4th. Not the corporation.

No. Not the megadata. Those records are that of the companies since they have no rights nothing to protect.

[clubgop]

SuperPacs are another story, but an individual/corp/company would only be able to donate the maximum amount that an individual can donate. That would nip in the bud really quick the mega donors.

Blatantly unconstitutional.

Boy, you love some donations.

Who doesn't? Why can you donate unlimited money to TYT or NPR but not a super pac? What the difference between a superpac and a media company?

[Xenophon]

Blatantly unconstitutional.

Boy, you love some donations.

Who doesn't? Why can you donate unlimited money to TYT or NPR but not a super pac? What the difference between a superpac and a media company?

There is no functional difference between media companies and SuperPACs. All are organizations with a political goal in mind. There is no such thing as neutral corporate media.

[clubgop]

Boy, you love some donations.

Who doesn't? Why can you donate unlimited money to TYT or NPR but not a super pac? What the difference between a superpac and a media company?

There is no functional difference between media companies and SuperPACs. All are organizations with a political goal in mind. There is no such thing as neutral corporate media.

Correct. They can never get that thru their heads.

[The Conservative]

I could live with that, if individual donations weren't unlimited, via SuperPac.

SuperPacs are another story, but an individual/corp/company would only be able to donate the maximum amount that an individual can donate. That would nip in the bud really quick the mega donors.

Blatantly unconstitutional.

How? Please amuse me how SuperPACs are constitutional in the first place? And how stopping super donors from having more pull over our politicians than a normal person is unconstitutional?

[SuburbanFarmer]

Ridiculous. So when the NSA wanted all those phone records, phone companies just had to comply afterall they have no 4th amendment rights. I am sure you are cool with that. I am sure if Congress passed a law severely restricting news corps that would be ok with you.

I am completely fine with that. The 4th amendment applies to those individuals who had their phone records searched. Said records should be protected by the 4th. Not the corporation.

No. Not the megadata. Those records are that of the companies since they have no rights nothing to protect.

‘Metadata’, if defined as a collective grouping of records with no individual information - sure.

If defined as individual call locations and times, no.

Sadly, when presented to a gaggle of 80+ career tumors, there is no clear distinction.

[clubgop]

I am completely fine with that. The 4th amendment applies to those individuals who had their phone records searched. Said records should be protected by the 4th. Not the corporation.

No. Not the megadata. Those records are that of the companies since they have no rights nothing to protect.

‘Metadata’, if defined as a collective grouping of records with no individual information - sure.

If defined as individual call locations and times, no.

Sadly, when presented to a gaggle of 80+ career tumors, there is no clear distinction.

Nope, there isnt. And no one will make that distinction because it is not in anyone's best interest.

[clubgop]

SuperPacs are another story, but an individual/corp/company would only be able to donate the maximum amount that an individual can donate. That would nip in the bud really quick the mega donors.

Blatantly unconstitutional.

How? Please amuse me how SuperPACs are constitutional in the first place? And how stopping super donors from having more pull over our politicians than a normal person is unconstitutional?

Because a superpac isn't a PAC. There is no association, no coordination. Just a message to vote for or against. You are not donating to a politician, campaign, or party. Just messaging. You can donate your entire life savings to NPR if you want. Same to TYT. If you can donate to a media company endless amounts why not for a superpac?

[SuburbanFarmer]

Blatantly unconstitutional.

How? Please amuse me how SuperPACs are constitutional in the first place? And how stopping super donors from having more pull over our politicians than a normal person is unconstitutional?

Because a superpac isn't a PAC. There is no association, no coordination. Just a message to vote for or against. You are not donating to a politician, campaign, or party. Just messaging. You can donate your entire life savings to NPR if you want. Same to TYT. If you can donate to a media company endless amounts why not for a superpac?

Because said media company doesn’t (in theory) write laws, and isn’t elected as an official.