The 2024 GOP Candidate

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Re: The 2024 GOP Candidate

Post by TheOneX » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:24 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:34 am
Ever get the feeling that the ‘conservative’ party/media is just capitalizing on the principles of their base, and cynically exploiting their ideals for attention? Almost like they’re pretending...
I feel like all establishment media and politicians do this.

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Re: The 2024 GOP Candidate

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:38 am

TheOneX wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:24 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:34 am
Ever get the feeling that the ‘conservative’ party/media is just capitalizing on the principles of their base, and cynically exploiting their ideals for attention? Almost like they’re pretending...
I feel like all establishment media and politicians do this.
Precisely.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: The 2024 GOP Candidate

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:58 am

You know what we call someone who believes that everyone is behaving cynically?

A cynic.
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Re: The 2024 GOP Candidate

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:11 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:58 am
You know what we call someone who believes that everyone is behaving cynically?

A cynic.
No doubt there are some True Believers scattered throughout, but they mostly occupy the writers’ room and coffee machines. Those in charge are mostly behaving in the manner that profits them.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: The 2024 GOP Candidate

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:18 pm

Except Zero Hedge, of course.

They would never dishonestly play on the biases and assumptions of their readers to get more eyes on their copy.
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Re: The 2024 GOP Candidate

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:45 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:18 pm
Except Zero Hedge, of course.

They would never dishonestly play on the biases and assumptions of their readers to get more eyes on their copy.
Hmm. Pretty tough to argue that they’re biased in favor of D or R, but I’m willing to hear your argument.

I’ll certainly admit their bias in favor of disaster porn/collapse/undermining the State, but... that’s kind of the attraction.

Seriously though, I’ve seen some weird pro Russian/Chinese stuff on there that I didn’t care to indulge in. Grains of salt, in all things.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: The 2024 GOP Candidate

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:54 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:45 pm
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:18 pm
Except Zero Hedge, of course.

They would never dishonestly play on the biases and assumptions of their readers to get more eyes on their copy.
Hmm. Pretty tough to argue that they’re biased in favor of D or R, but I’m willing to hear your argument.

I’ll certainly admit their bias in favor of disaster porn/collapse/undermining the State, but... that’s kind of the attraction.

Seriously though, I’ve seen some weird pro Russian/Chinese stuff on there that I didn’t care to indulge in. Grains of salt, in all things.
I am curious why you moved the discussion from the bias and assumptions of the media consumer to the bias and assumptions of the media outlet when it is about Zero Hedge.
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Re: The 2024 GOP Candidate

Post by PartyOf5 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:29 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:34 am
Ever get the feeling that the ‘conservative’ party/media is just capitalizing on the principles of their base, and cynically exploiting their ideals for attention? Almost like they’re pretending...
Yes. The first one I can remember really disappointing me was Paul Ryan.

The lack of fight from the GOP over having the election stolen from them is the last straw for me. Democrats told us for years this was coming. "By any means necessary" was openly stated in the open many times. They did nothing to prevent it and they are doing noting to expose it, which means nothing will done to prevent it going forward. If I vote four years from now it will not be for either of the 2 parties.

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Re: The 2024 GOP Candidate

Post by TheOneX » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:30 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:58 am
You know what we call someone who believes that everyone is behaving cynically?

A cynic.
I don't believe everyone is behaving cynically. I believe the establishment behaves cynically.

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Re: The 2024 GOP Candidate

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:44 pm

TheOneX wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:30 pm
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:58 am
You know what we call someone who believes that everyone is behaving cynically?

A cynic.
I don't believe everyone is behaving cynically. I believe the establishment behaves cynically.
I tend to think anti-establishment types are the most cynical lot around - but that assumption of bad faith is something I am trying to get rid of.
HAIL!

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-Hwen